1/13/06
Subject: UCLA
Hi folks,
Your Neo-MacArtheism has the potential to backfire?
I list only a few problems with your campaign to pay students "to snitch" on professors.
egocentric myopia (the natural tendency to think absolutistically within an overly narrow point of view)
egocentric infallibility (the natural tendency to think that our beliefs are true because we believe them)
egocentric righteousness (the natural tendency to feel superior in the light of our confidence that we are in the possession of THE TRUTH)
egocentric hypocrisy (the natural tendency to ignore flagrant inconsistencies between what we profess to believe and the actual beliefs our behavior imply, or inconsistencies between the standards to which we hold ourselves and those to which we expect others to adhere)
egocentric oversimplification (the natural tendency to ignore real and important complexities in the world in favor of simplistic notions when consideration of those complexities would require us to modify our beliefs or values)
C. Hughes
Ernesto Chavez, echavez@utep.edu
1/13/06
your hateful site is
insulting to all UCLA Alumni
As a UCLA Alumnus I must tell you that your web is repugnant. Face the fact people, a diverse professoriate is here to stay regardless of what you do. Know that I and my fellow alumni will spread the word of your hateful and deceitful web site.
Ernesto Chávez, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
History
University of Texas at El Paso
UCLA B.A. 1985, M.A. 1988, C.Phil 1990, Ph.D., 1994
David Starr, unionpsycho@msn.com
1/14/06
paying students
I'm thinking that if what is acquired in an education at UCLA is fear of hearing ideas with which a student, alumnus, or parent might not agree, then probably the entire faculty should be fired. I have heard of a professor actually teaching students that Adam and Eve really didn't ride to church on the backs of dinosaurs.
My oh my.
David Starr, Ph.D.
Meridian, ID
Virginia W. Jackson, vwj1@nyu.edu
1/14/06
Your Organization
To the "Bruin Alumni" group:
A colleague at NYU has just forwarded to me your latest announcement inviting UCLA
students to expose
radical professors on campus. As a UCLA alum and university professor, I am horrified. I shall do everything in my power to denounce your group and its tactics. I have already contacted the ACLU, as it seems that many have already done. While free speech is a constitutional right, conducting libelous campaigns in the name of UCLA almni who do not share your views or approve of your tactics is patently illegal. I am consulting with
colleagues at the law school about ways to stop your campaign. In the meantime, I request that you change the name of your organization. You certainly do not represent me as an alumna, and I am quite sure that you do not represent the majority of UCLA alumni.
Sincerely,
Virginia Jackson
Department of English
New York University
19 University Place
NY, NY 10003
jsmuk@umich.edu, cc: historians@umich.edu
1/15/06
UCLAProfs.com
Dear BruinAlumni.com,
I am writing you only to say that as a graduate student at the University of Michigan I have received word of your "program" of "exposure" and prosecution, and find it antithetical to both academic freedom and the spirit of unharassed intellectual inquiry. It means little to tell you this,as I am sure you must receive such emails on a regular basis, nevertheless I feel compelled to send one more. As it is apparent that your goal is to intimidate politically outspoken academics, I should only like to inform you that despite your efforts there will remain countless intellectuals across the country, and indeed across the planet, who will reject and condemn your type of prosecutory activities, and continue to speak both their minds and their consciences.
One Such,
Janam Mukherjee
Doctoral Student of Anthropology and History
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
John Dough, anthropomorphic88@hotmail.com
1/15/06
curious
Dear UCLA Profs and Bruinalumni I have a question.
Are your web sites in any way saterical, or some sort of crazy joke? I mean reading through your web sites they strike me as somthing out of a saterical sci-fi movie/book about a neo-facist state that encourages the public to rat out their neigbours and family members for wonderful prizes. Didn't Hitler and Stalin do somthing simaler while they were in power?
thank you
John
1/16/06
Important information
about liberal professors!
Dear Bruin Alumni Association,
I am writing in regards to your offer of cash for "exposing" professors
discussing important current issues such as the war in Iraq or Preseident
Bush. I have attended many classes in which professors pushed their own
radical and liberal agendas on their students who, lacking proper
indocrination of republican and conservative ideologies, were helpless
against the arguments of our adversaries. I am afraid professors are
teaching us students poisonous ideas against freedom. They are taking over
my generation like a black storm which threatens to destroy us all. I even
saw one student wearing a peace sign on his shirt, all while our leader neads
our support!
This is why I was thrilled to find your website. It marks an important return
to the middle part of the last century when leftists couldn't walk the
streets without constantly watching their backs. It brings me comfort to
imagine them, set straight in their daily fear of blacklisting. We need this
kind of authority in our lives today to root out every last Benedict Arnold
and throw all of them in jail for treason.
It was thinking about this that has made me think about the Bruin Alumni
Association's mission. Reading your website made me think about a few
things. One of the news stories talked about confused students who stood up
against the war on terror. I was very disgusted. I began to think that if
they are fighting a war ON terror, then terror is what THEY want. Thus
shouldn't we LET THEM HAVE IT? I mentioned in the last section the
effectiveness of McCarthyism and how it set unrighteous leftists back in
their place with terror. This has led me to believe that leftists are
actually REPENTING, they are begging for terror to set them in THEIR PLACE, a
return to McCarthyism. Those pro-terrorites want to dread the hand that is
poised above their homosexual perverted bottoms, prepared to spank them the
second they utter some stupid protest slogan.
SPANK EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM!
I will keep reading your website and praying to God while I continue to wear a
shirt every day with an American flag that reads "These colors don't run." I
hope that George Bush sees me one day driving my SUV through Disney World and
is proud. It would bring a lump to his throat as I drove to the nearest
mosque and transformed it into a church with the love of Jesus.
Please email aback and tell me what you think!
keep on rockin the free world!
Daniel Duffy,
President of Brandeis Republicans
Anna Fierling, anna_fierling@yahoo.com
1/16/06
dangerous
anti-American UCLA professors
Hello: Thanks for your work in protecting the youth of America from dangerous, radical ideas. I would like to turn in a few more professors - actually, I'd like to report that the entire faculty in the History, Anthropology, and English departments are freedom-hating, terrorist-coddling, commie bastards. They should all be replaced. If we could hire Ann Coulter to teach all the Anthrolopology classes, Bill O'Reilly to teach all the English courses, and David Irving or perhaps Ariel Sharon, if he recovers, to teach all the History classes, than perhaps we could undo all the damage that the pinko, pro-terrorist faculty have caused.
Anna Fierling
Otto-Suhr-Institut
FU-Berlin
"Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden."
1/16/06
a question for
you—and a deal
Mr. Jones-
If I may ask you to consider the following:
People like yourself, who are so upset that academia is dominated
with liberals that oppose the Bush administration (and it is),
should ask themselves why it is that corporate boardrooms are
filled with Republicans that support the Administration (and they
are).
Think about it: if your priority is understanding the world from a
critical perspective you are almost sure to be a progressive--which
is to say, critical of the world's dominant economic and political
orders. Conversely, if your priority is economic success for a
corporate heirarchy you are almost sure to be a conservative, which
is to say, supportive of those same orders.
Its really that simple.
In fact, I'd be willing to make a deal with you: I'll consider your
effort to forcibly increase conservative perspectives in the
college classrooms of America, if you agree to forcibly increase
progressive perspectives in the corporate boardrooms of America.
I'll make that deal with you anytime.
So, I guess my question for you is this: why are you so intent to
fight the liberalism of academia when your kind already controls
the real centers of power in this world?
Brigham Golden
Ron J, rjacobs3625@charter.net
1/17/06
anti-american
JUst looked at your website. You decry anti-american professors, however it is actions like yours that are truly anti-american. Let me remind you of our history--we were born in rebellion and insist on the right of dissent--or doesn't your copy of the constitution include the Bill of Rights?
(Read Numbers one and four closely--you might learn something about what it means to be a citizen of the US) By the way check out the 14th while you're at it.)
Your page doesn't promote US principles, it promotes tyranny, just like the president you love so much.
ron jacobs
north carolina
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Amendment III
No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Amendment V
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.
Amendment VII
In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
Amendment VIII
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
Amendment IX
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
David Torres-Rouff, dtorresrouff@coloradocollege.edu
1/17/06
radical outings
Dear Mr. Jones -
hopefully you are aware of the crime your group is committing. all
politics aside (difficult for both you and your targets, it would seem),
professor lectures are copyrighted and cannot be recorded without
permission. offering to pay students to engage in this activity
bears further legal complications.
perhaps it is this sort of illegal listening in and misunderstanding of
the meanings of both free speech and academic freedom that has these
professors upset in the first place.
Why not support a public forum on the matter and use your
"alumni" connections to get some space on campus to do
it? wouldn't this make more sense and reach a wider audience?
your program seems like the covert action of a frightened group of people
- what creates this?
david torres-rouff
David Torres-Rouff, dsr1@umail.ucsb.edu
1/17/06
per your request
I offer a copy of a letter I submitted to the UC office of the President:
To the office of the President:
I wanted to bring to your attention a disturbing program being sponsered by an organization claiming to be the Bruin Alumni Association. They are attempting to "quash radical professors" who discuss the Bush administration in class. They have sent out an email that reads, in part, as follows:
"The following are materials we need for past or ongoing classes, along with rates of compensation: Full, detailed lecture notes, all professor-distributed materials, and full tape recordings of every class session, for one class: $100"
as a UC graduate student and GSI, I recall that recording lectures without permission is against UC policy and illegal. Moreover, paying students to do this seems to further complicate the matter.
Perhaps you could do some research and take a look into the situation.
This is the url to this organization:
http://www.uclaprofs.com/profs/profsindex.html
It is equally disturbing that this comes from a group claiming to represent all UCLA alums.
all the best,
david torres-rouff
ph.d. candidate, department of history, UCSB
1/17/06
UCLAprofs
Dear sir or madam,
Is your website a hoax? So professors are supposed to divorce themselves
from politics? If they shall be censured than your efforts are no
different than those of Hitler, Stalin, and a host of other public
opinion makers who have lent credibility to the idea that only those
that have financial or political power have a right to shape the way
young people think.
I am disgusted.
James Nichols
State University of New York, Stony Brook
History
Joseph F. Dunphy
M.B.A., jfdunphy@verizon.net
1/17/06
Saw your group
mentioned on Daily Kos
and thought I would join in the chorus of people who hold views contrary to yours.
1/17/06
How dare they!
Do these awful teachers support the heretical spousings of evolution as well? Hopefully such crazy notions as the rule of law or equality for all are going to be examined.
Well anyways, goodluck spying on the professors at UCLA, heaven knows you can't trust the students down there in Westwood to think for themselves and draw their own conclusions, right?
Jeanie White, jbean612@comcast.net
1/17/06
Just Read About Your
Group
You and the rest of the students involved in this activity are truly disgusting. Joe McCarthy would have been so proud to have called you his own. My daughter will be going to college in a few years, and the idea that a hate-filled group such as yours is actually advertising for students to tape classes and spy on teachers is enough to make me quite sure she will never visit UCLA. I will also be contacting the Board of Regents of your university to let them know about my concerns regarding your group.
Hopefully, enough light will be directed under the rock where you and your group reside to bring your true motivation into the light; where it can be examined and discarded for the Karl Rovian inspired smear group it truly appears to be.
Jeanie White
Brentwood, TN
Robert Petrecca, robert.petrecca@cpr-capital.com
1/17/06
nice job
With all due respect:
Are you some kind of A-Hole?
Spying on faculty for what purpose?
Shove it up your Bushite A-Hole!
Muffy McGuffin, muffymcguffin@hotmail.com
1/17/06
Feedback
This is truly disgusting! I have two advanced degrees from UCLA. I think this makes me a "Bruin Alumni" and you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to invoke my affiliation with my alma mater for this disgusting, invasive, small-minded, and in every way SICK AND OFFENSIVE project.
Cease and desist.
M Neumann, mneumann77@mac.com
1/17/06
Please investigate
this
* Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert - avoided the draft, did not serve.
* Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey - avoided the draft, did not serve.
* House Majority Leader Tom Delay - avoided the draft, did not serve (1). "So many minority youths had volunteered ... that there was literally no room for patriotic folks like himself."
* House Majority Whip Roy Blunt - did not serve
* Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist - did not serve. (An impressive medical resume, but not such a friend to cats in Boston.)
* Majority Whip Mitch McConnell, R-KY - did not serve (1)
* Rick Santorum, R-PA, third ranking Republican in the Senate - did not serve. (1)
* Former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott - avoided the draft, did not serve.
* GW Bush - decided that a six-year Nat'l Guard commitment really means four years. Still says that he's "been to war." Huh?
* VP Cheney - several deferments (1, 2), the last by marriage (in his own words, "had other priorities than military service") (1)
* Former Att'y Gen. John Ashcroft - did not serve (1, 2); received seven deferment to teach business ed at SW Missouri State
* Jeb Bush, Florida Governor - did not serve. (1)
* Karl Rove - avoided the draft, did not serve (1), too busy being a Republican.
* Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - avoided the draft, did not serve (1, 2)
* "B-1" Bob Dornan - avoided Korean War combat duty by enrolling in college acting classes (Orange County Weekly article). Enlisted only after the fighting was over in Korea.
* Phil Gramm - avoided the draft, did not serve, four (?) student deferments
* Senator John McCain - McCain's naval honors include the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Legion of Merit, Purple Heart and Distinguished Flying Cross. Why did the Bush campaign smear him so? At least Senators Cleland (D-GA), Kerry (D-MA), Kerrey (D-NE), Robb (D-VA) and Hagel (R-NE) defended him.
* Duke Cunningham - nominated for the Medal of Honor, received the Navy Cross, two Silver Stars, fifteen Air Medals, the Purple Heart, and several other decorations Recently entered plea bargain on felony charges of bribery, etc. etc.
Shankar Mukherji, mukherji@mit.edu
1/17/06
Reported to the IRS
To whom it may concern,
Thanks for the website. It gave me just another example of the difference between the academic dumping ground UCLA's undergraduate programs often are (allowing students such as yourself to even attend) and a more reasonable place like MIT or Harvard; thank goodness I passed up UCLA for Cambridge, MA. I'm sorry you guys aren't academically capable students,
but taking it out on your professors is a little embarrassing, isn't it?
You're being reported to the IRS by hundreds of people tomorrow. Advocating on behalf of one political party over another is inconsistent with your 501(3)(c) status. Your database of contributions from UCLA employees is all the evidence we need.
Sincerely,
Shankar Mukherji
----------------------------------------------------------
Shankar Mukherji
Harvard University/Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Division of Health Science and Technology
Biological Physics Group, MIT Department of Physics
MIT 13-2013
Cambridge, MA 02139
1/17/06
Some comments on your
website
You folks are seriously confused. You attack the personal ideologies of professors while barely establishing proof that these ideologies somehow influence their conduct or lecture material in the classroom. You cite a litany of petitions or left-wing organizations faculty members have allegedly been associated with and on that basis condemn them, without considering that academics are human beings just like the rest of us, who lead personal lives quite divorced from their goals as educators. Who cares if Professor Makdisi spoke out against Israeli occupation on some radio show? Does that somehow make him a flawed Romanticism scholar (if you think it does, that only testifies to your own warped ideologically-polluted thinking)? Maybe if he a taught a class on Israeli-Arab politics, his personal activism would constitute a conflict of interests, but he does not--he is a humanities professor (on a side note, UCLA recently hired a former Israeli diplomat to teach a class on Israeli-Arab politics--I wonder if that instance of faculty selection strikes you as ideologically "tendentious" on the university's part?). He has every right as an individual to engage in activism outside the classroom, and throughout your article on him you do not demonstrate any proof that he has used the classroom as a forum to vent his opinions. I have taken classes with many of the professors profiled on your website, and was surprised to discover that these professors held the views they do--simply because they never aired them before their students.
Your site says much more about you than about any of the professors you indict. Your agenda is predicated on marginalizing anyone who embraces a leftist cause, regardless of their reputation or effectiveness as a teacher. The whole idea is actually laughable, really. I'm sure it's a real revelation on the part of your readers that, *gasp*, there may be a few unabashedly liberal professors tenured at UCLA. I mean, really, who would have thought--liberal professors? What a brain-busting investigative exercise on your parts. Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that some Hollywood elites are liberals--and that the NAACP SUPPORTS affirmative-action.
Rahi Azizi
UCLA, English major
Eric William Lamp, elamp@pipeline.com
1/17/06
Exposing UCLA
Professors
Fuck you, you fucking fascists.
My you all rot in a well deserved hell.
Eric Lamp
Kristen Konzak, kkonzak@hotmail.com
1/17/06
Problem Professor
I have a UCLA professor that you should look at. He is all the time talking about how Bush is acting above the law, just because he wiretapped U.S. citizens who probably were doing something wrong. This Prof. also talked about how he has been involved in stretching the credibility of our intelligence to invade a country that has been sucked dry by sanctions and bombing since his father's war, only to privatize it and seize it's valuable resources. He also pointed out how we have become a state that sponsors torture and promotes economic policies through the IMF and World Bank that keep poor nations in debt. He also spoke of how his party is guilty of ethics violations and how the tax cuts on dividends and estate inheritence has robbed the treasury at the expense of the economy and the working class and how no bid contracts to Haliburton and Bechtel amount to a form of looting the Treasury. The class is entitled "policy and ethics in government." I guess everything he has said makes sense. But I'm still disappointed that he's actually coming out and lecturing about it. The media haven't really said anything like this, so can he actually teach about this? Is there really such a thing as academic freedom or the First Amendment? Can't you just fire all the professors who say things you don't agree with even if they might be true? I mean, can't you fire all the biology professors who believe evolution is an accurate description of life on the planet? That's not what the bible says...There must be something nasty we can do - like form a website called UCLAprofs.com and terrorize them for their free speech. That will show them. Then we'll say that the academic elite are not so smart, just because they are telling us things that we don't like, we can get them fired. Isn't that so? just because the faculty are smart and stuff and read alot and are able to see through the charade that the administration is feeding the American public doesn't mean they should be able to tell other people about it, right? Or should it be? Does being a UCLA alum mean that you are a mean spirited anti-education fascist pig who wants to punish people who are armed with facts rather than talking points from a corrupt political machine that will go down in history as the worst administartion this country has ever had? Cause if that's what it means then by all means I want to support UCLAprofs.com because that is a really noble cause to attack people who are worried about the direction that our fucked up country is headed. because really everything is fine. President Bush is the best president we've ever had.
J O’Neill, jj_oneill@hotmail.com
1/17/06
how reactionary can
you get?
Dear Bruin Alumni --
I recently became aware of your site. I have no affiliation with UCLA,
but your site deeply troubles me nonetheless.
I certainly support your right to free speech. However, your attacks on
so many professors, who often sound like they are engaging in outstanding
research and teaching, baffle me. Surely there is a place for many kinds
of voices in academia. Your general phobia of ideas which do not agree
with your own and of anti-establishment critiques seems more the product of
ignorance than of enlightenment.
I would recommend you audit some of these classes that most repel you.
Perhaps you would find that there are ways to bridge the divide by
communication and mutual respect. Or then again, perhaps you ultimately
prefer to take the higher ground -- with no apparent justification. Certainly,
for many Americans, that is the easier path to follow.
Sincerely,
Jerome J. O'Neill
Jaime Muldoon, jmuldoon1@cox.net
1/18/06
Opinions
So where does one report a website that is abusive and
one-sided?
Listen, this is truly retarded; I'm talking short bus, helmet on your
head stupid.
Don't you think you could spend your money and energy better in other
ways?
If I had a dime for every cry-baby conservative wailing about mean,
liberal teachers...
Get over it!
The reason you had a bad experience at UCLA is because you are a mental
midget.
Richard White, rwhite85@comcast.net
1/18/06
Comment
Andrew:
Your tactics are reminiscent of those used by the Nazi's in the 30's against academicians with whom they disagreed.
Disagreement isn't radicalism.
You ought to be ashamed of yourself. Hannah Arendt was right in her assertion that evil can appear banal and very ordinary. You and your organizaiton are excellent. modern-day examples.
Richard White
Lisa Lockwood, lisap3756@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Thought policeman
Selling class notes or any recording of classes, without the express permission of the class instructor, is prohibited. Sorry, Adolph, guess you’ll have to think of another way to control thought and free speech on campus.
Section 102.23(a) of the UCLA Student Conduct code PROHIBITS the sale of notes or recordings:
102.23a: Selling Course Notes
Selling, preparing, or distributing for any commercial purpose course lecture notes or video or audio recordings of any course unless authorized by the University in advance and explicitly permitted by the course instructor in writing. The unauthorized sale or commercial distribution of course notes or recordings by a student is a violation of the UCLA Code whether or not it was the student or someone else who prepared the notes or recordings. This policy is applicable to any recording in any medium, including handwritten or typed notes.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
We're all wearing the blue dress now....
http://www.theimpeachproject.com/
John Stuart, cynic@iname.com
1/18/06
Section 102.23(a) of
the UCLA Student Conduct code PROHIBITS the sale of notes or recordings
Why are you trying to get kids kicked out of school?
Section 102.23(a) of the UCLA Student Conduct code PROHIBITS the sale of notes
or recordings:
102.23a: Selling Course Notes
Selling, preparing, or distributing for any commercial purpose course lecture
notes or video or audio recordings of any course unless authorized by the
University in advance and explicitly permitted by the course instructor in
writing. The unauthorized sale or commercial distribution of course notes or
recordings by a student is a violation of the UCLA Code whether or not it was
the student or someone else who prepared the notes or recordings. This policy
is applicable to any recording in any medium, including handwritten or typed
notes.
1/18/06
It Bearts Going out
and Finding a Job
Mr. Jones:
In perusing the internet for a biography of Art Rupe (b. 1917), I don't see any mention of military service in World War 2. I don't see any mention of military service on your part either, although it is obvious that you favor the war on terrorism (Iraq).
The far right seems perturbed that our godawful diploma mills (some categorized as "elite") sometimes admit mediocre blacks over mediocre whites but that same outrage doesn't seem to extend to the military where disproportionate numbers of backs and Hispanics serve in combat while loud white "conservatives" roam the student unions of our republic looking to argue with anyone who dares question the Iraq war which the right and their children so assicuously avoid serving in.
I don't believe Al-Queda is much of a threat to us. "But what if they get a nuclear bomb?" bellows the Bush supporter. It doesn't look like they are going to get one to me and if they did we are a long way away from them. "What about putting it in a cargo container?". On and on it goes.
Given the fact that Mr. Rupe has changed his name doesn't change my suspicion that he has an obsession with a certain Middle Eastern country and maybe that is what this is all aobut.
Dave Pilliod
Swanton, Ohio
J J, redeemus05@yahoo.com
1/18/06
UCLA notes
Section 102.23(a) of the UCLA Student Conduct code PROHIBITS the sale of notes or recordings:
102.23a: Selling Course Notes
Selling, preparing, or distributing for any commercial purpose course lecture notes or video or audio recordings of any course unless authorized by the University in advance and explicitly permitted by the course instructor in writing. The unauthorized sale or commercial distribution of course notes or recordings by a student is a violation of the UCLA Code whether or not it was the student or someone else who prepared the notes or recordings. This policy is applicable to any recording in any medium, including handwritten or typed notes.
Congratulations for encouraging students to violate university codes! They could get expelled! Your webite is a real moral beacon for America.
John Kasik, john111449@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Just Great
Mr Jones
Why don't you sponsor a book burning as well!!!!
John Kasik
Santa Maria CA
1/18/06
here’s an idea
why don't you get a job or join the army and fight in iraq.
then you can stop annoying people.
Tom Kittredge, tomkittre@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Prof.inq
I have info on a biology professor teaching the theory
of evolution, what is that worth to you?
Man, can you get more radical than being antiwar? Some
day we will eradicate peace once and for all, that'll
show those lefty's!
Mark Rupert, merupert@maxwell.syr.edu
1/18/06
BAA
Hi Andrew,
You have been hard at work. Clearly this is more than a hobby for you. Who is paying your bills? Where does the funding for BAA come from? Can you afford to be honest and forthcoming about that?
Mark
Mark Rupert
Dept. of Political Science
100 Eggers Hall
Syracuse University
Syracuse NY 13244-1090
Kevin Brening, kbrening@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Little Know it All
(who has forgotten history)
Dear Andrew,
Yes, I'll address you in personal terms, because people of your stature don't deserve the time of day.
Think: McCarthyism.
Now, (if you were actually able to think), please stop being such an ignoramus.
Sincerely,
K.B.
p.s.-- the world would be so much nicer without people like you.
1/18/06
Radicals
Greetings,
Recently I read an aol news report on the search for radical profs at UCLA. I further read articles at http://www.uclaprofs.com/
My comment on the subject directed towards those searching for "radical profs" is that they are not that radical to begin with because there is nothing strange or uncommon about hating the current president, or the war that he promotes. Most of the people I know share those feelings of dislike of Bush and are greatly disappointed with our government and our nation as a whole.
If no one had ever questioned our government slavery would still exist and women wouldn't be allowed to vote. Or I suppose UCLA supports that as well.
Untill these types of actions by UCLA are stopped, no one in my family would ever be allowed to attend there as long as I live.
Not respectfully,
Lisa Marie Sumner
John Kasik, john111449@yahoo.com
1/18/06
PS
PS Does the IRS know you are advising tax
deductions for contributions to your
organisation?
John, macjont@myway.com
1/18/06
Threat
You people are a greater threat to America and its values than all the terrorists put together.
1/18/06
peace
BE NICE
1/18/06
nice
ANDREW JONES; BE NICE-MAKE PEACE
Lucas Noll, lucasnoll@earthlink.net
1/18/06
Fascists
Aloha,
You guys are a bunch of fascists. Your behavior would make Stalin and Hitler proud! If you don't know what fascism is, do a google search on fascist.
Claudia Long, claudialong@earthlink.net
1/18/06
teachers
I am an alumnus and I have just been directed to your website. You know, the McCarthyesque one that's paying students to spy on their professors and try to destroy them.
I don't know if there is anything illegal about what you are doing, but I intend to find out. Perhaps some media coverage would help too. It's just sickening to watch this spread of rightwing censorship and political correctness. What will you do next to stop free speech --lynch mobs? Why do you hate America?
Mary Jane
Caswell-Stephenson, mj@oreilly.com
1/18/06
radical professors
exposed
Please realize that to come close to appearing to be
even handed, you must also disclose those professors
who would criticize former President Clinton as well.
Criticizing the President is a right of anyone in a
democracy. It's not radical. This does appear to smack
strongly of one sided politics and an attempt to intimidate
professors. Glad I can say I didn't graduate from UCLA,
or I would resign from the Alumni association immediately.
I certainly hope that you get all the attention you deserve.
--mj
Mary Jane Caswell-Stephenson
mj@oreilly.com
IS Asset Manager
1005 Gravenstein hwy North
Sebastopol, CA 95472
707-827-7000
Julie K. Beardsley, badgerx@pacbell.net
1/18/06
Truth?
Are you angry because you couldn't get into UCLA grad school?
You are an ignorant, VERY young man. I suggest you spend several years traveling around the world, and get a better understanding of how the world really works.
The right wing agenda you espouse is wrong on so many levels.
Mateo, mlorenz7@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Yahoo! News Story –
UCLA Alumni Want Scoop on ‘Radical’ Profs – Yahoo! News
mateo (mlorenz7@yahoo.com) has sent you a news article.
(Email address has not been verified.)
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Personal message:
Are U kidding me? Wake up Amerikan Idiots - It's called free speech. And you are college educated??
UCLA Alumni Want Scoop on 'Radical' Profs - Yahoo! News
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060118/ap_on_re_us/professors_targeted
1/18/06
How to clean, guy and
field dress a Rightwinger
Hey "alumni" snob? Why don't you put your chickenhawk ass where your
yuppie repugnican mouth is and volunteer to walk point in Iraq!!?
Get your sissy ass Republican butt on over there!! Youand your kind are
GUTLESS Chickenhawks!!
-Larry Henderson
http://rackjite.com/news.htm
Nothing New Under Their Dark Sun
"But the way of the righteous is not all roses. Before I close I must
call your attention to a problem we have to face, this coming year. The
worst menace to sound government is not the avowed socialists but a lot of
cowards who work under cover—the long-haired gentry who call
themselves “liberals” and “radicals” and “non-partisan”
and “intelligentsia” and God only knows how many other trick names!
Irresponsible teachers and professors constitute the worst of this whole
gang, and I am ashamed to say that several of them are on the faculty of
our great State University! The U. is my own Alma Mater, and I am proud
to be known as an alumni, but there are certain instructors there who seem
to think we ought to turn the conduct of the nation over to hoboes and
roustabouts. Those profs are the snakes to be scotched—they and all their
milk-and-water ilk! The American business man is generous to a fault. but
one thing he does demand of all teachers and lecturers and journalists: if
we’re going to pay them our good money, they’ve got to help us by selling
efficiency and whooping it up for rational prosperity! And when it comes
to these blab-mouth, fault-finding, pessimistic, cynical University
teachers, let me tell you that during this golden coming year it’s just as
much our duty to bring influence to have those cusses fired as it is to
sell all the real estate and gather in all the good shekels we can. Not
till that is done will our sons and daughters see that the ideal of
American manhood and culture isn’t a lot of cranks sitting around chewing
the rag about their Rights and their Wrongs, but a God-fearing..."
Sound familiar? Is that Grover Norquist? Rush Limbaugh? Tom DeLay? George
Bush? Ronald Reagan? Your brother-in-law or any other contemporary
conservative? No, that was Sinclair Lewis' Babbitt, in the novel of that
name, making a speech to the Chamber of Commerce. Published 1922.
You can hear the same crap, often word for word all through history and
classic literature right back to The Inquisition - or Cave 233 in the
Neanderthal Valley for that matter.
Sinclair Lewis wrote another book in 1935 called It Can't Happen Here.
The story of a Religious Moron who becomes President through voter
chicanery, and then uses fear and Jesus to first take away the rights of
minorities and foreigners, and then everyone else. He creates a fascist
state modeled on Mussolini where Capitalists and Cardinals support the
prevailing military dictatorship.
Mussolini gets credit for being the father of Fascism, but you know, those
with the money and representing God have been in cahoots for about two
millennium doing the same damn thing for the same damn reasons.
Trenton, trenton07147-bruin@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Exposing UCLA’s
Radical Professors
To the Bruin Alumni Association:
The people involved in this program are louts and your tactics are thuggish. The AP article compared it to McCarthyism and a witch-hunt, to which I agree. Your message and purpose isn’t about fair and balanced teaching, it’s about targeting individuals you don’t agree with. The Salem Witch “trials are so widely regarded as notorious miscarriages of justice that they have become synonymous with mass hysteria, panic, and superstition.” (Microsoft ® Encarta ® Reference Library 2005. © 1993-2004 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.) Additionally, McCarthys legacy is to be remembered as a pariah in my opinion. Your ‘crusade’ against the professors of UCLA will ultimately fail and you will be looked upon with disdain.
A Very Disgusted,
Trenton
1/18/06
My wife is a Liberal
Professor
Come harrass her Mr. young Republican. Here in Tennessee I would stomp
your sissy Repug ass into the ground!! Come play that game in Knoxville,
Tennessee yuppie-sissy pantywaist!! - Larry Henderson, Knoxville, Tn.
1/18/06
Are you a “Christian”
Conservative?
Try practicing YOUR religion then !!! down
1/18/06
You are a bunch of
COWARDLY CHICKENHAWKS !!!
Anna Fierling, anna_fierling@yahoo.com
1/18/06
keep up the good
work!
I've got another anti-American agitators to report:
John Wooden, our former basketball coach. He recruited and coached a large number of negroes, who of course are prone to Communism and anti-American activity (Paul Robeson, Richard Wright, Muhammad Ali, etc.). Lew Alcindor, for example, became a Muslim/terrorist, changing his name and constantly inveighing against supposed racism. It's time we stopped glorifying Wooden around here.
1/18/06
Cheap ass Repugs
1/18/06
Get your ass to Iraq
big mouthed Chickenhawk COWARDS !!!
David Shirinyan, shirinyan@psych.ucla.edu
1/18/06
Shame on you! Change your name, your an embarassment
I cant believe you. At least change your organizations name to show your true colors you fools.
1/18/06
From a Bruin
Gentlemen:
As a graduate of UCLA, both BA (Pol.Sci.) and J.D. and a former UCLA Extension teacher for nearly a quarter of a century, I would respectfully request, and would be honored, that you add me to your Radical list so that on the next Kristallnacht you can come and find me.
Richard Schulenberg, `62, `65
Todd Raymond, t.ray@mac.com
1/18/06
Why do you think
other Republican students are stupid?
Dear Mr. Jones,
After reading your web page and the LA Times article, I would like to ask a simple question. Why do you think other Republican students are stupid? The institutions of education in this country are founded on open dialogue and, no doubt, you formed your opinions in reaction to the supposed "liberal radicals". I hope that you would consider yourself to be an intelligent UCLA alumni and that you would place equal faith in the ability of younger GOP students to decide for themselves what will and will not shape their future political views. Isn't that the way you formed your set of political values? If there is a glaring left leaning bias in the elite American university system today, then why would you want to stifle the free thought process of the very students you are appealing to? What you are doing, in effect, is creating propaganda by payment, which is, entirely more despicable than the professor using his lecture hall as the bully pulpit.
Sounds like you didn't really pay attention in Psych 101 when they discussed the pathology of control issues...
Oh, and don't be too quick to assume my political preference...
Your organization is a blight on the free education enterprise.
Todd Raymond
Patton L.
Whittington, standout@direcway.com
1/18/06
U R a threat to
America
Dear Moronic Simpletons,
There's still plenty of room in Serbia or Israel for Stalinites like you. You and your masturbation pal, GWBush, are in my prayers for a paralyzing stroke.
America is a large place, but sorry, there's not enough room for total A-holes like all of you.
American Defense Group
aaron beard, aaron@theguiltinangroup.com
1/18/06
Your timing sucks
I just wish your little list was around when I was in law school (JD, ’03). It would have served as a road map to which professors I WOULD have sought out. One thing you gotta love about the right…always doing thorough due diligence. I proffer to you the same thanks I sent the AFA and Ralph Reed, both of whom have provided me with unadulterated lists of anti-Christian (or is that pro-bigot?) companies where I spend my hard-earned dollars.
Keep up the good work.
Aaron W. Beard
General Counsel
The Guiltinan Group
512 Via de la Valle, Suite 201
Solana Beach, California 92075
(858) 756-6286
cell (619) 322-1032
fax (858) 764-9798
aaron@theguiltinangroup.com
1/18/06
You people have lost your minds
You are nothing but Fascists. You are not going after the professors who are conservative. You people are the kind of people that have embraced a mythology that says the "Government passes a law against discrimination and then it occurred against blacks. The government passes a law against child labor and then the companies began to employ children and then hurt kids!!!!!!" No this occurred before the government passed these laws.
I have one question: name one black male liberal that you and your ilk actually like. I have never heard any white conservative( or "black conservative-just what are they trying to conserve -Jim Crow or segregation????") talk about any black liberal who is fighting for black people you have ever liked. I am sure people of your ilk were against Martin King !!!! Now you pretend you like him. And take Ralph Bunches' pic off your site. He is rolling over in his grave.
What has happened to America. We had 20 yeras of a Civil Rights Movement 1955 to 1975 and we have 30 years of severe backlash from 1975 to now. When blacks marched for their rights and women too, this made white males enraged. they now control the House, the White House, the Senate, the Supreme Court 33 of the governorships and you still want more!!!!!! You want blacks in the back of the bus, poor and uneducated . You got rid of affirmative action and you still rail against it.
You people are pathetic. Like I ask, name one black man who is fighting for black civil rights you like-- i listen to Larry Elder, Shawn Steele, Ken nad John, Hugh Hewitt etc and I never hear them praise a black man who is fighting against discrimnation or a black liberal. But they are not racists are they ?(Larry Elder-who I am sure you love is a joke and not respected by Blacks at all)
Vic
CM
T++1.818.523.0125
Shekib Jami, shekib@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Morons
You racist republicans are the worst of the worst in this country. You don’t belong in this state or should not even be allowed to get a free education in this state. Why don’t you just go and live in a state with your backward ideology. Go back to your red stats were you belong with the rest of your racist buddies.
Class of 2003 against your stupid organization!!!
Shekib
richard johnson, rjtld90049@yahoo.com
1/18/06
wake up in there
Dear So- Called "Alumni" Organization:
From your web site and it's related writings, it's painfully obvious that UCLA failed miserably in your social & political education.
I strongly suggest you continue your so-called education and OPEN your eyes and MINDS to the real world, and get out of your fascist mind frame.
This country does NOT need any more of your 1950's FASCISTS views and/or ideology.
There's plenty of that garbage spewing from the White House already and intelligent people don't buy it.
Please try & get a life and a real education! Quit polluting this world with your fascist views and paranoia.
Richard Johnson
concerned citizen and registered voter
Annemarie Cofer, annemariecofer@yahoo.com, cc
acarnesale@ucla.edu
1/18/06
bribing students to
Dear Bruin Alumni Association:
As a Bruin alumnus, I am writing with great concern
about your UCLAProfs effort to "expose UCLA's radical
professors."
Your "Dirty Thirty" profiles lay bare your own
extreme political views, indicting professors for the
journals they publish in, their parents' politics, war
protests they engage in, etc.
My main objection, however, is intellectual. Many of
your lengthy professor "profiles" are readings
challenging the premises, arguments, etc. of the
academics' work. If you want to engage on the level of
academic discourse, it seems, then do so. There is a
forum for this: it's called publishing. If you think
you have a superior interpretation or argument, ample
evidence to back it up, plus the ability to articulate
it in writing, submit your challenges to an academic
journal. If no journal of standing will publish your
"parses," perhaps they don't meet the minimum
standards of veritable academic inquiry.
And finally, if you're really concerned about the
quality of education UCLA students receive, stop
bribing them to spend valuable class time toadying for
you. Students should be in class to listen, respond,
and do the work - or else they should drop the class
and take something else that engages them.
I suggest your members attend the classes and take
notes themselves. Perhaps a little intellectual
refresher wouldn't hurt.
Sincerely,
Annemarie Cofer
A fellow alum
Frank Batchkoff, gotmagnums@yahoo.com
1/18/06
UCLA
Hey, you need a girlfriend. You are 24 yo, and pro-war, why don't you enlist and go to Iraq?
How come you are so brain-washed? The US is in a steep decline economically, China builds up their military on the outsourcing of Corp. America and you want to be an attorney?
You are a errand boy sent by grocery clerks to collect the bill. You need some pussie. Be a man.
Jesus was a black man and Reagan is the devil. I played football at UCLA 1982-1986 and the black football players contributed more cash revenues to the University than you will ever.
I will be working to undermine your orgaization by bending the time-space continuem; ahaahhhaaahhahahaahhaahaahaahaha.
You suck.
Russell, ntruss@pacbell.net
1/18/06
Pity
Dear Mr. Jones,
After reading about your organization in the LA. Times and viewing your web site, I am not surprised to find out that the bigotry,
that is usually present in elite private universities, seems to be alive and well in State universities as well. My sister was a graduate of UCLA and I am an undergrad at the institution and neither of us felt the venom that you have towards certain people and professors.
Your writings clearly display not only an aura of bigotry but homophobia as well. I am certain that your group will be properly delt with by the school administration and by the voice of reasonable public opinion.
Until then, you have my sympathy and pity.
Live well and be happy,
Russell McFadden
Cory Hawkins, pipetor44@yahoo.com
1/18/06
uclaprofs.com
To all the active members of the Bruin Alumni Assocation:
This program's success in weeding-out radicals is ample evidence as to why we are winning the War on Terror and why we need to keep fighting diligently on all fronts including here at home.
No doubt the professors at UCLA as well as professors at all elitist universities all across the country are wasting our students time by filling their head with notions of supposed 'free will' and supposed 'facts' and 'truth'. Thankfully this administration has no need for such antiquated ideals and instead focuses on more effective concepts such as 'personal ideology' and 'message above all else.' Any professor who would dare challenge the brilliant ideology and talking points of President Bush should not only be removed from campus immediately, but be tried for war crimes by the very students they attempted to corrupt. As the students taunt, torture, and ultimately execute the evil professors and all their ilk they will begin to know the true power of the Talking Points and the wise and wonderful wisdom that is George W Bush. Only when we insist that our college students go out of their way to not only spy on all their professors, but demand that those professors who say anything that might be construed as political ammunition against the President be punished and executed in effigy, we will truly start to win the War on Terror.
Sincerely Mocking You,
Cory Hawkins
Charles Hubbard, charleshubbard2002@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Radicalism on Campus
Dear Mr. Jones,
Shall we bribe liberal students to record oh, say any lecture in any business or marketing class lecture? Oh yes, I forgot - those degrees are restricted, keeping out those nosy radicals who might discover - to quote Adam Smith, who makes convervatives such as yourself wet yourself with pleasure even though he really is not the conservative icon you think him to be - "wherever two or more business people meet, it is a conspiracy against the public."
Your tactics reek of the worst sort of big brother fascism. Soon enough, the world will stop giving people such as yourself incentives to be anti-human.
Sincerely,
Charles Hubbard
Alex Reid, reid_alex@mptp.com
1/18/06
Spying on professors
Dear Mr. Jones-
Welcome to the legion of right wing fanatics who are afraid of debate. Your
approach to intimidate and suppress views that differ from yours is
despicable. Your approach has been used by many before you: Hitler, Stalin,
Hussein, etc. If your worldview were one that people agreed with once they
know both sides of the story, you'd have nothing to worry about. But, you
can't allow debate because it exposes the lies and hypocrisies upon which
your beliefs are built.
Alex Reid
Thurston Hatcher, thurston_hatcher@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Extremism
You say your UCLA experience "was entirely typical for any student who didn’t embrace political extremism," yet you yourself seem to have embraced the worst kind of extremism with your truly repugnant, McCarthy-like tactics aimed at silencing those with whom you disagree.
Ted Lollard, t_lollard@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Informants wanted
Dear Andrew,
after reading your fascinating website I just wanted
to make a couple of quick suggestions. Why not go
after all those "radicals" more efficiently? Perhaps
you could have children inform you of anything
suspicious that their parents might be up to, like
donating to the Red Cross. After all how far is a red
cross from a red hammer and sickle, right? Maybe dorm
roommates could inform on each other, just to keep us
all safe. As a Bruin alumni myself, I can't say how
proud I am that we have produced such a forward
thinking, "America love it or leave it" kind of guy
like yourself. We can't depend on USC to produce all
of them can we? Good luck with the witch hunt. I
mean professor watch of course.
love (but not the gay kind, don't worry),
R. Nixon
ubiquitous, theshavedferret@gmail.com
1/18/06
Paging Sen. McCarthy
…..are you here
Your request has to be one of the most prejudiced requestes that I have encountered in this century. Because you can not win through facts and debate you want "dirt" to win. You are disgusting. You are a disgrace to the Republican party .... if you in fact belong to a party and take the time to vote. Grow up ... get a life ....... and please .... leave politics to the adults (you most certainly are not one) .... or in language that you might better understand ......... You deserve to be fucked up the ass for the moron that you are
--
"The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time." ~Mark Twain
Jeff Elijah, jelijah@hotmail.com
1/18/06
suggestion
As our illustrious vice president told a U.S. senator on the floor of the Senate:
Go Fuck Yourself.
1/18/06
Refund
UCLA owes you a refund. Seig Heil!
Jim McCann
Baton Rouge, LA
"When Fascism comes to our shores, it will come with a flag in one hand, and a bible in the other" -- Sinclair Lewis, 1935.
Francois Aubry, francois.aubry@videotron.ca
1/18/06
What are you afraid of ?
Ever tried psychoanalysis ?
Jess Jones, lilbruin13@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Bruin Pride?
Don't you have anything better to do with your time?
Your energy would be better directed toward something
positive, a solution for hunger in the world perhaps,
or even just Los Angeles. You should be ashamed of
yourselves. I am ashamed of you.
Jessamyn Jones, '02
Scott Eastman, eastmanps@comcast.net
1/18/06
radical professors
Dear Andrew Jones,
Thank God He has appointed you His representative here on earth. I thought it was GW Bush, but now I realize that free thinking and opinions that might be counter to the fodder shoveled by the White House is anti-American and anti-Democracy. I forgot that Democracy meant Freedom as long as you agree with what the President says. Was that the President of the US of A or was that the USSR? Please don't put me in prison for disagreeing with your extreme right wing politics. I am sure that everyone on the UCLA campus and ALL UCLA alumni are pleased by your representation of their political persuasion. It seems to me that this is distinctly different (NOT) from what the Taliban and Al Qaeda tell their fanatical believers. All you need is to get religion involved and you're there. As an American, I am truly ashamed of you, your website and what you profess. Thank God He made you the Supreme Judge here on earth to decide what people should think.
Sincerely,
P. Scott Eastman, Ph.D.
John Chamberlin, jsc339@msn.com
1/18/06
Andrew Jones one hell
of a dumbass
So I have to ask. If you are so upset with the way things were taught at UCLA, why the fuck didn’t you get around starting thinking for yourself, leaving and going to another institution. Or were you too fucking lazy to do anything about it while you were in school? Or were you just an ignorant fuck, who didn’t have the balls to do anything about it while you were at UCLA. It seems to me that Jones is really nothing but a sheep. I’ll take a real good guess here and say that Jones had his balls removed when he got to UCLA, and was too chickenshit and gutless while he was there because he was too worried that he would not get his degree. Let me get this straight, you actually HAVE to PAY students? Well, I’d have to say two things about those types of students, 1: they must be chickenshits like Jones who don’t have the balls to stand up on their own, or 2: Jones proves that there’s a sucker born every minute. Sure, I’ll tape my professor if it means suckering the Bruin Alumni organization out of a couple of hundred dollars. Jones, plain and simple you are one fucking dumbass. How UCLA ever let you graduate is amazing
John Chamberlin
Gilmont Fannheim, gilmont_f@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Ahem
What's up with spying on professors and getting students to name names? Didn't get enough of Joe McCarthy the first time around? You know, the thing that separates us from the lower beasts is our ability to reason, and that ability to reason comes in real handy when you want to make a choice like–oh, I don't know–where to go to school and/or what classes to take and/or what to believe and what to question.
Help me here: why is it that the pond scum of this country get attention? Folks like yourself would disappear with a strong dose of penicillin, so why do we bother paying attention. I think maybe it's like watching the special olympics–a little bit of auto accident rubbernecking, a little bit watching the pea brain make his way.
Aaron Dawson, aaronfdawson@yahoo.com
1/18/06
I would like to
support your organization
Too often in this university culture is there liberal domination that proposes to preach intolerance of right wing policies and the leaders that envision them.
I would like to thank you for being an organization that takes it's playbook from the people that know how to change the course of events. In the defense of international torture, the wiretapping of our US citizens and a war that continues to destroy young men and women's lives on both sides of the battlefield, your almost Nazi'esq tactics encourage me to send, in support of your organization of course, an 100% German Taylored brown coat. I believe that an organization like yours is absolutely an offspring of the kind of thinking that helped Germany take so much control of it's free-minded thinking in the 30's and thus should be rewarded. Thank you again for your inspiring fascist thoughts and campaigns!
Sincerely,
Aaron
Warbi, warbi@warbi.net
1/18/06
What a joke
What a pathetic bunch of losers you must be. Boo hoo, intellectuals are speaking out against our pet ersatz dictator (Bush). Woe are we- these "radicals" are decrying the destruction of the environment. Who cares that the preponderance of evidence shows that mankind's impact on the earth has altered everything from weather patterns, potable water, soil erosion, arable land, agricultural productivity, biodiversity, and ecological health of the whole planet? Anything for a buck- your mother might bring $2.50.
It will be highly amusing when UCLA sues you into bankruptcy for copyright infringement on the professors' lectures. Should be a good show!
Get a life and a brain and learn to think for yourselves. No doubt you believe in the myth of the "liberal" media which is why it took over a year to report Generalissimo Bush's illegal wiretapping. Apparently, you didn't learn any of the allegories of Nero nor the grasshopper and ant. Enjoy it while you can because you and your stultifying zeolats are bringing about a crash that will make Malthus look like an optimist. We are already seeing the effects of fouling our planet and this is just the smallest inkling of what is to come. I suggest that you do a little research on: global warming, Sixth Great Extinction, potable water, agricultural productivity, population dynamics, social contract theory, Hobbes, biodiversity, and the Nixon Impeachment- especially the part regarding illegal wire-tapping.
Sincerely,
Warren E Biggs
1/18/06
Fear mongering in the USA ……
To Whom it may concern,
I guess you could call me a concerned citizen, but your campaign to
"out" so called "radical" professors on the campus of UCLA is
nothing new, and nothing short of McCarthyism.
Are you trying to influence ie. "shut up" those professors and
their free speech rights ??? Are you trying to "scare" and fear
monger the community and professors as a whole. I'm sorry but this
trend toward black/white red/blue and right/wrong is just scary and
innappropriate. What's next ....... ??? a patriot list perhaps ??
Those with the proper thoughts and opinions please step foward for
your medal ??
This money and effort should be spent more wisely on the problems
surrounding our community and how we might bring the community
together, not tear it apart.
For my part I hope and pray daily that such efforts fail miserably,
because I believe, even as a "USC" alumni, that our country
deserves better.
Thank you for you time,
Brett
ringo spade, hydro4gt@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Greetings
I looked at your website. You guys are really a bunch of paranoid, wacked-out wing nuts.
1/18/06
I don’t understand
Hello Andrew-
Though not a UCLA graduate, I did graduate from UC Riverside with an MA in US
History. I find it troubling that you would pay students to spy on professors to
"make sure" they aren't too far left. I fail to see how you, as an individual,
are qualified to decide what is acceptable for classroom discussion and what is
unacceptable. And, please, don't give me the tired old argument that UC campuses
only tolerate a liberal agenda. If that is the case, it is not some sort of
leftist conspiracy, but the reality that deep thinkers and those with an
intellectual bent generally gravitate to the left because it is inclusive and
meaningful rather than (as on the right) divisive and reactionary.
You, like many of your attention seeking anti-intellectuals on the radical
right, wish not for open dissent or "balanced" intellectual discussions- but
instead insist that any dissent from the right is squelched. You are what you
claim to fight- closed-minded, anti-intellectual cowards preying upon an
ill-informed public. I highly suggest you find some other way to make a name for
yourself. If you really want to "present a balanced picture" academically, why
don't you become a professor/teacher? Something tells me it is because you don't
have the brains to make a name for yourself in that profession. You are an
anti-intellectual because you, my friend, will never BE an intellectual.
Let professors teach without fear of your totalitarian vigilantiism- you really
should be ashamed of yourself!
Sincerely,
Eric J. Richards
1/18/06
What are you
thinking?
I am trying to figure out just when I slipped the time
warp and ended up in Nazi Germany! What you are doing
may seem to you like offering a balance, it does not.
Actually, the Left should thank you for displaying
exactly the type of right wing behavior that they
would like to attach to conservatives. Further, you
display extreme disrespect for the youth/students who
do in fact have both the skill and the intelligence to
see an "agenda" no matter which side of the radical
political spectrum you represent.
Beginning in February I am going to post a similar
reward to all of your friends, family, and work
associates. Any of them who can provide me with
comments that you make that would be especially
embarrassing or incriminating will be rewarded.
Someone needs to help you provide a balance in your
life; I have appointed myself that task (I will likely
ask a few friends to assist).
Thank you,
J.R. Jablonski
Alumni
1/18/06
outstanding!
What an outstanding parody of the draconian tactics of the McCarthy era!! I
found your site to be an excellent mockery of the far right! Good for you for
standing up against the clearly irrational tactics of conservative republican
ideologues; as a former UCLA student, I got a real kick out of this site.
vive la revolucion!
C
robert parker, reinvent13@mac.com
1/18/06
False name! You should be honest and call yourselves "Bruins for Bush". You are a political group of alumni and if you were honest, you would clue people into your agenda by indicating in your "factions" truest and ultimate purpose. But like most rebubs- You are misleading and subversive and hell bent on a compassionate fascist state.
I hope you have very little success with your spying and get what you deserve in the end.
God Bless and guide you to reality.
James Cowperthwait, jcowperthwait@verizon.net
1/18/06
Peter McLaren
Thank you for your article on Peter McLaren. I was not
familiar with this guy but he sounds like an exciting and very intelligent
thinker. I can't wait to find out more about him. I hope you're not
successful in derailing his career. This country needs diversity of
thought!
Thanks again,
Jamie
1/18/06
I’m curious
On your website, you ask for help from students:
"If you can help UCLAProfs.com collect information about abusive, one-sided, or off-topic classroom behavior, we’ll pay you for your work."
Does that include professors who promote only views from the Right? It seems that unless you are targeting ALL "one-sided...classroom behavior" then you are, indeed, engaged in a witch hunt.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Stewart
David Weir, djweir@gmail.com
1/18/06
McCarthyism
Is there any difference between what they did then and what you're doing now?
Have you thought of debate, criticism, conversation? Bullying is for the weak.
Act like grownups, please.
David Weir
Ray Medley, dipso@bellsouth.net
1/18/06
WHACKO
YOU ARE A REAL PIECE OF CRAP....YOU SAY YOU HAVE A DEGREE, GO GET A PRODUCTIVE JOB.
Jeffrey432@earthlink.net, cc: acarnesale@ucla.edu, keithb@support.ucla.edu
1/18/06
Bruinalumni.com
I just learned of an organization called Bruinalumni.com. Apparently, it targets UCLA professors who do not support a strictly conservative, Radical Right agenda.
I don't know how closely affiliated this organization is to your university, but it definitely hurts the image of UCLA.
I hope you are taking steps to disavow the "work" of this organization.
Sincerely,
Jeffrey Stewart
Gordon Graham, gcgraham@charter.net
1/18/06
Professor Witch Hunt
As a graduate of UCLA, I find your witch hunt disgusting and anti-American. Universities are supposed to be places for intellectual exploration, not right wing dogma. Why are you so afraid of a free exchange of ideas? Why must you try and mold everyone into your rigid way of thinking. Allow others to explore all views and then form their own. That's the American way. Your way is not. Don't you get it?
To call this list the "Dirty Thirty: The Worst of the Worst" is absolutely representative of the new republican way. Rather than accept that these are respected, well educated professors that simply hold a different belief than your own, you make the judgment call that they are "dirty", the "worst of the worst". Absurd. Your lack of intellectualism is written all over that. Anything that differs from your small, ridged set of ideas is simply wrong, bad, dirty. Wake up. These are just different points of view. Wonder why Hillary Clinton says that the house is being run like a plantation, that the minority voices have no say? Just look at your own way of dealing with dissenting opinions. You trash them, plain and simple. That's the new republican way, apparently, and she was absolutely correct in her assessment.
As a graduate from UCLA, I strongly disagree with your views and with your actions. McCarthy is alive and well and living in your midst. Congratulations to you and the rest of the new republicans for setting the clocks back some 50 years.
rus worthy, hipalonghop@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Followers of ignorant
men pay the price
Andrew,
Bush and all of his ignorant, elitist followers
deserve every negative comment from anyone exercising
their right to criticize freely. Social trends are a
valuable measuring stick of people's attitudes toward
their leaders. Bush is ignorant and was a poor choice
to lead the GOP's attempt to own the world - so get
used to the criticism and reap the downfall,
prettyboy.
r dub
Dr. Joanna Lipari, joanna@drlipari.com, cc: dean@saonet.ucla.edu, msnbc_hardball_newsmail@msnbc.com,
alumni@uclalumni.net
1/18/06
Bruin Alumni
Association going after non-conservative professors
Today I listened to Art Mantle’s discussion (Public Radio’s KPCC) about Andrew Jones’ deceptively titled Bruin Alumni Association, a new conservative-based group of UCLA Alumni. I was intrigued with the discussion of this group’s efforts to “out” what they considered to be “radical” left-wing professors.
What is both interesting and frightening is that his complaints against some professors have NOTHING to do with what they teach in class, but rather their political opinions as expressed in an open forum. Consider the attached profile of an English professor, S. Makdisi, as it appears on the site.
You will see that this profile is written, not from an objective stance, or even a questioning stance, but from a most decided bias with vitriolic language and personal attacks. The entire TONE of the profile is offensive. Biased, prejudiced and disturbing. This vitriol further divides us. This isn’t about being Republican or Democrat – this site is simply about HATE for anyone with an opposing view.
What is so curious is that the entire profile discusses what this professor does in the public forum (interviews w/ newspapers, on panels, etc.). Nowhere is there an attack on his teaching at UCLA of ENGLISH LITERATURE. In fact, the subjects he teaches -- William Blake and Romanticism – has nothing to do w/ the Middle East.
Professors are people. They have opinions. Even political opinions. And they should be allowed to express them. To raise money in an attempt to have this professor lose his job is frankly abhorrent. Sure you can rail against him, but to make an active campaign to squelch him?
Conservatives always bemoan the “liberal media” and “liberal bias” of our universities. Why is that? Has there been some over-arching cabal to only higher politically liberal professors? Or could it be that well-educated people tend to have more sophisticated, complex and better articulated points of view that may be in opposition to the conservatives’ talking points? I’m sure I could go to many universities around this country and find a conservative bias.
Discussion is good. Personal attack? Disheartening.
Joanna Lipari, Psy.D.
Adjunct Professor of Psychology
Graduate School of Education and Psychology
Pepperdine University
6100 Center Drive
Culver City, CA 90045
1/18/06
Katherine King and
your list
I just finished reading your attack on Professor King and I am somewhat confused by your inclusion of her on your list. It seems to me that you believe that professors at UCLA should be politically neutral or to the right both in and outside of the classroom. If you had ever spent a day in Professor King's classroom, you'd realize that she is a brilliant teacher in her field and she is focused on her lesson and rarely, if ever, diverges from the lesson plan. Politics just never seemed to come up in her course. What she believes and says outside of class is her right as a citizen. She has said nothing that would endanger anyone.
Is there something inherently wrong with peace between Israel and Palestine? Please tell me.
I also noticed that there were no conservative ideologues on your list. Surely there must be one or two on campus who have a right wing agenda. Oh, I forgot, you are not for an unbiased faculty, you are only against those faculty members that do not share your particular bias.
Your organization seems to be somewhat bitter about the fact that academics tend to be liberal/progressives rather than conservatives. Have you ever paused to wonder why so many very well educated people believe that a progressive ideology is preferrable? Your program to pay students to tell you if their professors have a political bias is reprehensible and smells of fascism.
UCLA is a public institution. If you want to be a part of a university that doesn't allow its faculty to do as they will or believe as they will so long as it does not violate the law, well, I can recommend a school across town. You should feel right at home among the Trojan elite.
Jonathan Troop '04
Bridget Walsh, bridgetw@milestonemtg.com
1/18/06
alum
Dear Andrew,
A university student has the ability to “vote” for the professors or school of choice by surveying the faculty before they plunk their money down to go to an institution or to take a class from a particular professor. Why didn’t you do upfront research and select a university with a faculty more inline with your personal views if that was important to you?
There are plenty of right wing institutions out there to choose from. UCLA isn’t one of them. Pepperdine has a great climate and a pretty campus , too. Why in heavens name didn’t you go there? Oral Roberts University probably would have been your cup of tea. If you are planning on going to graduate school, get smart and don’t make the same mistake twice….
Good luck,
Bridget
Anonymous Anonymous, shametheselfish@hotmail.com
1/18/06
UCLA Profs
You are a blight on a once freedom loving nation.
Every second a child dies from extreme poverty, may their souls haunt you forever.
There aren’t words to describe the infinite pity and disgust your views elicit.
Daniel VanArsdale, barnowl@silcom.com
1/18/06
Report of bias in the
classroom
Hi,
I just saw your presentation on bias at UCLA on CNN. I am a graduate of
UCLA, MA in math, 1967. So my report is rather old, but I have a point to
make. Here is what happened
In the fall of 1963 (just back from 3 years in the army) , I took an undergraduate
course in political science at UCLA. I believe on about the second or third day of class
the teacher said almost these exact words:
"The Democratic party can be seen as an organization of debtors seeking
to get rid of their debt by the use of inflation."
At the time it never occurred to me, or probably any of the
other students in the class that disagreed with the professor, to start
taping his lectures, and report him, etc. For one there were left wing
instructors there also, like Professor Kalish in the Philosophy department.
I don't even remember this professor's name, but he could still be there
since he was pretty young. That doesn't really bother me.
Here is another old example of bias in the class room at another
UC campus. My son took a military history class, a subject he was, and is,
very well informed on. He wrote a paper accusing General McArthur of
incompetence in the initial loss of the Philippines to the Japanese. One
incident: one of McArthur's commanders surrendered a large number of
soldiers after a Japanese officer held a gun to his head. The instructor,
a right winger, was enraged and actually down graded my son for
for questioning the divinity of Douglas McArthur (even though it was
acknowledged that McArthur did a good job in the Japanese reconstruction).
At the time neither my son nor I considered monitoring this fellow, or trying to
get him fired, like some want to do to
any professor that expresses any sympathy at all for Palestinian human rights,
or who opposes the way the war on terrorism is being conducted.
In summary, I think you are a jerk. Daniel VanArsdale, UCLA Math., 1967
Cat Bohannon, cat23@email.arizona.edu
1/18/06
Dirty Thirty
FYI –
The name “Dirty Thirty” is already taken: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:z89P_iHRgkgJ:www.tsha.utexas.edu/handbook/online/articles/DD/wmdsh.html+%22dirty+thirty%22&hl=en
… by a bipartisan group of Texan representatives who aligned themselves against government corruption, at times to the detriment of their careers.
So you’re inadvertently giving these profs a compliment.
Careful. Lack of research can make you look sloppy, and looking sloppy undermines your argument (and undermining your argument, even in a venue as small as this, undermines a political movement).
More useful: invite some of these profs to a public, well-publicized forum. Have a politically moderate intellectual prompt and manage the discussion. Have your SMARTEST and most articulate member speak on behalf of your group to the press. Invite the College Republicans and College Democrats groups at UCLA to help organize (takes some of the work off your hands AND makes you look more credible). Be sure to let the Democrats nominate and invite some of the conservative profs in a similar manner. I would also advise against involving the Palestine-Israel issue, given the very real-world death toll in the West Bank and Jerusalem. It’s a massive and complicated issue that pushes the kind of buttons you just don’t want up on that stage.
And by God, revise your entry for #6. Your dig against the “unequal pay” research makes you look childish and sexist (NOT how you want to appear).
Bottom line: if you actually want to start up a real discussion about politics in the classroom, you need to carefully, cogently, and intelligently ENGAGE the academic community on their turf. Nobody’s going to take you seriously until you do.
- Prof Trying To Help
PS I’ve read somewhere that you’re trying to buy tapes / notes of lectures from your named 30 – I’d back off quickly. It got you press, now discreetly backpedal. I checked with an intellectual property lawyer – the copyright issues are freakin’ enormous and expensive (not to mention the potentially touchy ground of privacy invasion). It also implies that you value politics over what’s potentially being LEARNED in the classroom, which makes you look anti-intellectual / anti-education (yet another pitfall these sorts of efforts can fall into, greatly undermining their efficacy). I’m assuming some of your advisory board has already mentioned this, but if not, it’s really worth considering.
nathaniel cunningham,
natelb@hotmail.com
1/18/06
website
Racism? Check.
Sexism? Check.
Homophobia? Check.
Grant B. Harris, gharris@mbl.edu, gbharris@alum.mit.edu
1/18/06
“The Voice of
Reason”, my ass.
Andrew Jones:
You do shame to UCLA and its alumni.
Grant Harris ©®™
Joe Barefoot, joebarefoot@gmail.com
1/18/06
tip for ya
Hi,
Since you all are so busy frothing at the mouth about the supposed
silencing of the conservative perspective at UCLA, maybe I should
remind you of a few things:
1. You decided to go to school there, and it was "liberal" then too.
If you wanted a tertiary education with a "conservative" slant, should
have tried:
www.byu.edu/
....of that's still too "liberal" for ya, try
http://www.bju.edu
Your attempts to conservatize the school as alumni is pretty funny.
Reminds me of the neo-cons public yearnings for a yester-year that
never existed.
2. Most journalists and professors, nationally, are "liberal"
according to various polls. I suppose it is merely coincidence that
the most informed and best-educated individuals in America tend to
have a liberal viewpoint, eh? Of course, you're right, the minority
in both camps with conservative viewpoints must be correct,
always....after all, that's what YOU think, and you're never wrong
about anything......
3. Take note: Anti-semitism is not the same thing as being opposed
to the Israeli government. Here's another tough one (you might want
to write this down): opposing U.S. foreign policy or even the U.S.
government is not the same as "hating America", moreover it's not even
un-American. You may want to look up the word "patriotism", you'll
notice there's no mention of goverment in there....heck, I'll do it
for ya:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=patriotism
I'm sorry that you feel so insecure in your position that you have
resorted to this. Please don't protest this characterization, you'll
just sound like a homophobe swearing they aren't afraid of gays.
hopefully you'll wake up soon,
Joe Barefoot
1/18/06
Opinion
You folks are really fucked up.
Sincerely,
Jon N. Jensen, Ph.D.
777 East William Street, Suite 106
Carson City, Nevada 89701
Eric Schattl, Eric.Schattl@law.duke.edu
1/18/06
your web site
You are ignorant and pathetic.
Larry Fox, larrofox@gmail.com
1/18/06
Hello
You slugs need to crawl back under your rocks.
1/18/06
Did’ems waff at you
cwothes?
""Having been a student myself up until 2003, and then watching what other students like myself have gone through..."
Po' widdle baby!
Grant Fehr
Blanco, Texas
Shannon Hubbell, brundlefly@gmail.com
1/18/06
Saree Makdisi
I was perusing your site and came across your profile of Saree
Makdisi. I couldn't help but notice that, although your stated mission
is rooting out professors who advocate a particular political view in
the classroom, your only objection to Mr. Makdisi concerns what his
political views actually are. Nowhere do I see any documentation of
classroom evangelism.
What do you believe your purpose is as an organization? Do you wish to
reveal professors who "are actively proselytizing their extreme views
in the classroom, whether or not the commentary is relevant to the
class topic," or do you simply wish to eliminate those professors
whose politics you disagree with?
--
"All you need for a movie is a gun and a girl." - Jean-Luc Godard
Nabil Al-Sharia, saharanprince@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Don’t you have
anything more interesting to do with you life?
I don't know what your deal is regrading the Zionist entity. The Palestinians are doing the same thing to the money changers that they did to them.
Groups like the Stern Gang, the Pal mach, the Hagan ah were the equivalent to Ha mas, Islamic Jihad and the PLO.
As far as this war goes, the idiot in the white house created his own self full filling prophecy. Al-Quiada wasn't in Iraq before the war, but they're there now. UBL hated Saddam for his secularism. That numb skull created the worlds largest terrorist training camp with this war. Now, the veterans of the insurgency are going to take their experience back to their host countries and create more havoc.
Andy, you really need to either smoke a joint or get seriously laid.
Glove Save, glovesave33@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Nice website
Just heard your story on the news. You know there was another group in the past who helped ferrit out people whom disagreed with their views. They were called the Nazis. You are not an American. Shame on you.
1/18/06
Evil people
supporting war want to support you
Why not just kill the left wingers!
Oh, that's right you don't have a clue about how ugly war is
Carl Witt, III, carlwitt3@sbcglobal.net
1/18/06
Bruin Alumni
Association-“The Voice of Reason”
Mr Jones,
You and your organization are a complete embarassment to UCLA, academia and American Society as whole. Your actions are beyond contempt. It never ceases to amaze me how much Republicans who are so concerned with freedom are the first to try and take away the freedoms through threats and intimidation of those who do not agree with their often narrow-minded viewpoint. You should be ashamed of your actions.
Carl Witt, III
MA 93, MEd 00
Mr. z, z4v3n@hotmail.com
1/18/06
radical
Dear Bruins,
Most college students view the term "radical" in a political or ideological sense as a *good thing*. Your paranoid rants about radical professors and radical departments are akin to writing newsletters warning the community of progressive or forward-looking thinking going on at UCLA. Oh no!
Why would anyone go to college if they didn't want to be exposed to views other than their own?
Love,
A non-Bruin.
PS -- Being anti-war, anti-Bush regime, or anti-excessive corporate power does not make someone a radical. These are entirely legitimate and mainstream American sentiments. If you really believe these are radical viewpoints, then you should be aware that you are ignorant of how a huge portion of the American public thinks.
PPS - Political dissent is one of the most crucial cornerstones of our Democracy. To attempt to stifle dissent, whether in an educational context or not, is unpatriotic. In a time of war it is downright irresponsible. I suggest you re-read the Bill of Rights for a quick refresher of the principles on which this country was founded.
tracey verhoeven, emailtraceyv@yahoo.com
1/18/06
To The Radical Right
It's always about money with you sad, pathetic,
people. Go away and join Bob Jones University where
the rest of the scary Nazi's go.
Colyn Schaeffer, sewershark@pacbell.net
1/18/06
Bounty
You're a grade A jerk, you know that? I don't know if you've noticed but this is a blue state, the more radical democrats we have here the better. We need more people on the left to fight off your fascist, warmongering president. It's your party's fault that we're in this war and that we're losing our generation to crazy Arabs. If you're a true republican why don't you enlist in the armed forces, go to Iraq, and get yourself shot in the head like a good conservative Christian.
1/18/06
Saw your comment in
the paper
Andrew Jones,
You need to be more accepting of others and their right to an opinion, and
recognize that this is a free and open democracy we live in.
It's the main reason I enlisted in the military.
Regards.
Ravi Shankar, ravi_mshankar@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Your appearance on TV
today –Andrew Jones
Mr. Andrew Jones, let me start by saying that I think you are a very unscrupulous individual. I support freedom of thought and speech, especially in academia (ironic, since this seems to be exactly what you want to quell), but I think it is wrong that you did an interview on TV (can't remember exactly which station, but I assume FOX News) today acting as though you were from an official organization associated with UCLA.
You have your conservative agenda that you want to push, which is fine, it is afterall your right, but do NOT embarass us other Bruin alumni and act as though you are our voice. No where in todays interview was it apparent that your "Bruin Alumni Association" is your own private organization. To most viewers it seemed as though you were from the schools official alumni group. Only after I came home and looked your group up did I realize you were a fraud.
I think that you are so conniving; I am embarassed to be associated with you as a Bruin.
I must say however, your work is admirable. But hey, why stop here? I hear there is a vacancy as House Majority Leader...I'm sure they are looking for people with just your qualifications.
-Ravi Shankar
Bruin Alumni, Class of 2002
chris clifford, cvclifford78@yahoo.com
1/18/06
your motivations
Hey,
Be careful with this path. It was "radical" thinking and "pot-stirring" that forged the fires of rebellion that this country was built upon. YOU are a direct benefactor of such "radical" thought. Haven't you ever questioned authority? Can you tell me why a university level classroom SHOULDN'T be a place to engage in discussion of hot-button political topics? You should challenge these professors, not go after them in some witch-hunt, especially since you are encouraging your fellow students to profit monetarily by "ratting" them out - that puts you perilously close to being in the same "pot" as those who collaborated with the Nazis when they "outed" sympathizers and closeted minorities. Think about that!
If we start going after the teachers, who SHOULD be causing students to think critically, and SHOULD be creating forums for open, frank and passionate discussion of current topics that affect the lives and futures of students and the rest of the citizens of this land of the free, then we are in danger of losing the very freedoms that allow you to voice your dislike for their classroom practices to begin with. You're essentially shooting yourself in the foot.
I support your right to dissent, but to attack your professors for thinking and speaking out, is self-defeating. At least their outspokenness has provoked you to participate in a critical process. But I am dead-set against you paying others to out them for their views. I suggest you create a more "political" forum for this pursuit and conduct it for the benefit of all.
Don't be one of those contributing to the gradually increasing erosion and loss of our freedoms that were won so dearly and at such cost. Don't shame yourself.
Fellow American
1/18/06
Attention Andrew Jones:
I think you're a tightly spun-up little weasel with too much time on your hands. Why don't you divert what you perceive to be your good intentions toward people who try to suppress ideas rather than those who actually have them and are willing to express them?
You are an insignificant little man, with insignificant little ideas.
Linda Toney
1/18/06
Hey Andrew J
You know, Andrew, after successfully graduating college and working 20 years in the film industry, I know a play for publicity when I see one.
What? You just couldn't figure out how to make a living without trying to do so NEGATIVELY on the backs of trying to hurt others? I bet you call yourself a Christian, too, LOL.
Well, enjoy your 15 minutes of fame, dear little weasel kid. You pretty much make me embarrassed that my first words weren't Mommy or Daddy, but Republican because that was the politically active type of family I came from; however, the way you're trying to make your mark is sickening and, by the way, why don't you try some Pro-active skin products for that greasy shiny face of yours or hire a makeup artist to cover that mug when you're on TV, I can see the lights reflected off your oily face!
Just MY opinion, which like assholes, is something everyone has, including, unfortunately, YOU!
May you reap what you sew, little boy, and may this backfire on you when you get older and wiser and realize coming out for such an ultimately bullshit 'cause' will, hopefully, bite you in the ass later, when you finally figure out what to do for a REAL job.
By the way, with that education, why don't you just get a job? (Can you spell LOSER?)
Sincerely,
A FORMER Republican thanks to dumb-shits like you (and the Bush family,of course)!
1/18/06
Jones
Andrew Jones your a piece of Crap. Loser!!!!!
John Darling, mediadean2004@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Hey, hey…
...how are you fucking right wing nuts doing today?
Did that scum bag motherfucker Karly Rover put you up
to this. Well fuck you. Come 11/06 the fucking
republiKKKan pandemic will be cured and America will
be FREE ONCE MORE...
Burn in Hell motherfuckers...
1/18/06
HEy mango?
Hey MR. Andrew are you still a virgin. Maybe you should rent The forty Year
Old Virgin little boy
Jack Gallant, jakalant@yahoo.com
1/18/06
embarassed
You are a bunch of stupid unAmerican idiots. You all should go back to school and check out the first amendment. If there is any justice, which you folks obviously don't care about, this will backfire. Glad I don't have to be embarrased about being a UCLA alumni.
Jack Gallant
QQS
Jack
martin morones, martinmorones1962@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Asshole,
You suck and you have a edema in the head. What a drag!
HOTPOP, georgemattie@hotpop.com
1/18/06
hey
Boy -- glad to see you are out there.
We need more folks like you stifling freak thinking -- thanks so much, the
quicker we can get this country under the control of just one man (George
Bush, thank goodness) the better off we are -- and stomping on these freak
professors is a step forward. Thanks for standing up for us real Americans.
Thanks dude
MutantPop@aol.com
1/18/06
BAA
HI--
For you, one word:
McCarthyism!!!
Last time the Rs had the Supreme Court, the Presidency, and both Houses of
Congress, it was the same deal. First time as history, second as farce...
Tim Davenport
Corvallis, OR
1/18/06
UCLAProfs.com
The site, UCLAProfs.com, is mean-spirited, immoral, unethical, born of malice and immaturity, and rude. You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
Richard Smith, richardsmith4718@verizon.net
1/18/06
Longview
When history is finally written for these times, you will be included as a footnote - another young Nazi.
MIDI Maven, midi_maven@yahoo.com
1/18/06
your wonderful UCLA
education
Hitler, Stalin, McCarthy, and now Jones. Quite a Pantheon. It really is a shame you didn't learn anything about facism from those horrible left-wing "liberal" professors you were forced to endure at UCLA.
Sieg Heil !!!
robert parker, reinvent13@mac.com
1/18/06
ABC News
You look and sound like another repressed republican. What are you hiding?????
carlballard, carlballard@vampiressuck.com
1/18/06
I Found A Commie,
Gimme $100
I'm pretty sure that Klaus Schoenweise who took the picture at the top of this page <http://www.ucla.edu/library.html> is a communist. First off, Klaus! Need I say more? Well I will. What other book could that be that the person, or Comrade, in the foreground is reading but Des Kapital? I mean really. Also, he looks foreign, maybe even A-RAB!!!! Also there is an asian and maybe another A-RAB in the picture. Clearly they are plotting the overthrow of Western Capitalism. Thank God you're there to stop that and not in Iraq where your giving people money to help you make a blacklist skills are wasted. So gimme the money and lets get Klaus the Komunest.
Jerry, cokopui@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Saw your site on
Channel 7
The only difference between you and Hitler is a
mustache. Rot in hell you strupid W.A.S.P.!!!!
Evan Davis, evan@headwriters.com
1/18/06
I love Jesus and
Brian
I love Jesus, my daycare teacher wore a Birka for my formative years, and I want to marry Timothy McVeigh. Can you give me away?
Rebecca Cooper, coopbecgar@gtm.net, cc: acarnesale@ucla.edu, dneuman@conet.ucla.edu, dvredevoe@conet.ucla.edu
1/18/06
UCLA Radical
Professors
I think that you should be ashamed of yourselves-- seems the Radical Right is very in to protecting rights only when it serves their own purpose- I am sick of seeing laws distorted and hearing lies and half truths from the right -- and anyone who happens to have a different option you persecute -- ever hear of Freedom of Speech or Freedom of the Press - I believe that I will be ashamed of our country and its behavior when I look back on this period of history. You disgust me. |
Oh and I love the "Support UCLA Profs.com" asking for donations- is this tongue-in-cheek -- can you attack the professors then ask for support for them -- more right wing double talk . No your bribing students to turn in notes attacking their professors- oh that leads of mutual respect in the class room.
Rebecca Cooper
1050 Colfax
Benton Harbor, MI 49022
autotecwrite, autotecwrite@san.rr.com
1/18/06
Stunning
You folks give idiots a bad name.
But, you made the CNN news page.
Which can only mean the tweedledums are adept at covering the tweedledummers.....
Justin Wilford, jwilford@ucla.edu
1/18/06
Douglas Kellner
First, I want you to know that I am a student at UCLA and I have never taken a class from Dr. Kellner. That said I find your attack on Kellner to be very shameful. In news stories about you and your organization you say that you are concerned with the education that UCLA students receive, and to that end you are attempting to hold professors accountable when they politically polemicize in their classrooms. Fine. I have no problem with that. But what you've done to Dr. Kellner is attack him for his personal views outside the classroom. You did not list a single instance when he misused his classroom. Instead you implicitly argue that because he holds views with which you disagree he should be fired. This is a deeply dangerous and irresponsible sort argument you set forth. And if this is the sort of thing that your organization are committed to (as opposed to focusing on classroom behavior) then I can only hope that people will see you for the intellectual thug you are.
And by the way, "Philosophy of Education" has a long and distinguished tradition--ever heard of John Dewey? Check every education school in the country and you will see that if they don't have a special department for Philosophy of Ed. they will at least offer classes on it.
Don't be stupid.
Sincerely,
Justin Wilford
PhD Student
Department of Geography
UCLA
Francesca Miller, fmiller_equilife@msn.com
1/18/06
You don’t speak for
me
Dear Andrew,
As an alumna of UCLA M.A. '70, and a proud participant in the 1968 campaign to stop the bombing of Cambodia, it is with deep sorrow that I learn of your attempts to destroy the very heart of University culture: the open mind, the open forum. It may come as a shock to you, but universities were created to cause people to think: not to think in a certain way! The beauty of a campus is that it is a SAFE place to express one's views whether inside or outside of class.
Taking that away by tattling on free-thinkers on either side of political thought or ideology is anathema to philosophical growth.
It would be a very boring and gray world if people like you were to prevail and seal every mind shut except for your own narrow views.
What are you afraid of, a resurgence of people with REAL values, formed from healthy debate and exchange?
DO NOT call yourself a BRUIN Alumnus: you are alumnus of Mein Kampf: look what happened to him.
Get over yourself.
Very truly yours,
Francesca Miller, Member UCLA Alumni Association
Daughter of a thinker, thank God!
SF Trippin, sf_tripping@yahoo.com
1/18/06
$100 per student
FYI, we will offer even more money to individuals who
will find and expose your paid fascists whom you have
hired to monitor class content for what you call a
"leftist" agenda.
Your paid fascists will be facing public ridicule and
ultimately expulsion from the University.
Have a good day, fascists.
bob wenzel, bobwenzel@pacbell.net
1/18/06
WHAT A BUNCH OF
F**KING IDIOTS
Why don't you move to some other country where narrow view are dictated.
bob
1/18/06
Are you CRAZY?
You are a fascist that is challenging constitutional affirmations of the NATURAL right of all American citizens to say whatever they want, whenever they want.
I think you should move to an authoritarian state like China, Myanmar or Russia. You would fit right in! PLEASE LEAVE AMERICA!!! I hope you are sued for what you are doing. You are a disgusting loser......
Thomas W Volscho, THOMAS.VOLSCHO@ uconn.edu
1/18/06
Can I be in your top
30?
Hey Guys!
I was looking over your nifty website and noticed that you have "Dirty Thirty" list and I was wondering if I could be no. 29 or 30? I teach at the University of Connecticut, I use a MARXIST perspective and I teach students about RACISM (and how there were no "WHITE" people at Jamestown in 1619). Despite the difference in schools, maybe you could throw my name on your list
Happy New Year Good Buddy!
-Tom Volscho
************************************
Thomas W. Volscho
Graduate Student
Dept. of Sociology U-2068
University of Connecticut
Storrs, CT 06269
Phone: (860) 486-3882
http://vm.uconn.edu/~twv00001
Antonio, undeadx2@yahoo.com
1/18/06
this professor is so
biased
Prof Thiele is so biased. In MAT32B he told me I was
getting problems wrong just because I was bad with
numbers. I don't need numbers to know whats right.
Jesus didn't need calculus and neither do I. It's all
part of a secular scientific conspiracy to undermine
the faith of America's youth at this, most critical of times.
Kimberly Pfirrmann, restless_winter@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Prof’s
What a terrible "organization" this is.
1/18/06
radical professor
report
Dear Andrew:
I can't help but feel inclined to help you in your quest to out these biased, radical professors at UCLA. You've only found just over 30 out of 3,326 total faculty (1%) -- there have to be more out there.
I noticed no Biology faculty on your list. The Molecular and Cell Biology department has been overrun with bias for at least 15 years. I took Cell Biology from Roger Bohman who should be added to your list. During his lectures, he had the gall to insist that we all root for the L.A. Kings in the NHL Playoffs. He even threatened to make the exams harder if the Kings lost. Can you believe such bias against non-Los Angeles area teams??? Or even his support for a sport that Canadians like -- the commie pinko probably doesn't even like good ol' American football!
I took class from Prof. Bohman 15 years ago and I don't have my notes anymore, but he's still teaching there, so could I still have the 100 bucks anyway??? If not, they're also teaching this crackpot leftist theory called Evolution in all the Life Sciences departments. That's gotta count for something, right???
Sincerely,
A Very Concerned Alumnus From '94
Jennifer Bridges, jennifer.bridges@gmail.com
1/18/06
Sociologists needed!
To Whom it May Concern:
I am shocked by the utter lack of sociologists in your top 30 list. While everyone else on the list are fine academics, I am surprised that you could not find one professor of sociology at UCLA who met your qualifications, which appear to include teaching radical perspectives and critical thinking about society and ourselves. Sociology teaches students to see social structures, getting us away from the ideology of individualism that permeates our culture. It helps us to see the ways in which our race, our gender, and our class are fundamental determinants of our lives and our life chances. It has radically altered my perspective on society, made me independent, skeptical, and taught me to thinking critically about the world around me. I get the impression that you wouldn't be a fan.
I see that spots 29 and 30 have yet to be filled, and I wish to ask that you consider a sociologist for at least one of these positions. Check out the sociology website; I'm sure you will find at least one professor whose opinions you disagree with. I do.
Thanks!
CLINT REHN, chrehn@msn.com
1/18/06
Radical Professors
To Whom It May Concern,
Your organization is an embarrassment to all decent Republicans and American citizens. You should move to Russia or Cuba where you would feel more at home.
Sincerely,
Clint Rehn
Walla Walla, Washington
United States of America
1/18/06
Heil Hitler Andy
Andy,
You have your right spout your voice and expose others who have their right as well. But you can't accomplish anything by it unless you advocate stiffling other's freedom to have an opinion and therefore stiffle your own in the end. If you want to censor you find yourself wasting time and energy. Your logic, and understanding of what it is to be an American is severely flawed but your young and maybe this will be learning experience for you.
Certainly try as you may and you are entitled to your wasteful pleasure but some day you may do some good when you realize your mistaken in your path. Like you, I am expressing my freedom to write and express my opinion, and, as you are free, so am I, to take or leave it. I only wish you well and hope some day your force in this world will be more positive than negative (as it is now, in my opinion). I truly believe right now your being mean spirited and want sefishly to express your own view freely while suppressing others in theirs. A clear contradiction. To you, I say, Karma, what goes around, comes around, or, biblically, you will reap what you sow. When the seedlings grow see what kind of growth you get, and learn my friend, learn.
Truthfully, I wish you the best. Just keep your mind open, and you'll make out alright. Understand, and don't fight so much. It's easier and you'll be more successful in your endeavors.
Ok, go forth, do your thing, just learn. :)
Best regards,
Richard
Tina Wilcox, tgwilcox@sbcglobal.net
1/18/06
Paying students to
spy
Have you no shame? I doubt it. McCarthy as well as J.Edgar Hoover live on in your alumni association.
Purging truth isn't in keeping with the best interest of the U.S.A. Why don't you realize that there must be checks and balances? Didn't you learn anything at UCLA?
Nick Knight, nick_knight@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Stop Your McCarthyite
WitchHunt Tactics!
So you wanna expose all the radical profs, huh?! Well, it is about time somebody exposed you. You RepubliKANS criticize the liberals for “tax and spend”. Well, all the welfare cheats , deadbeats and harebrained liberal policies don’t hold a card to fyou and the way you ran up the national debt under Reagan and later, Dubya. Before Ronnie Baby took office, our debt was several hundred billion. Afterwards, it mushroomed to over 3 trillion. Of course, Ronny, like Georgie, had tax breaks for the rich—welfare for the affluent. What about “trickle-down” and “these people create the jobs”? Pure bullshit!! Why, even Warren Buffett has criticized the policy. He said “it is a class war and his class was winning”. All the rich do with their money is hoard it. Buffett was quick to point out that giving the breaks to the working man made more sense because the working man would spend it and thereby help the economy.
Who can forget the 1980’s: deregulation ago-go: The first thing Reagan did when he took office was to reduce the impact resistance requirement of car bumpers. It had been 5 mph and he reduced it to 2mph. Then came leveraged buy-outs of good companies which ruined them and put Americans out of work en masse; Charles Keating and his swindles; Michael Milken and his junk bonds and oh yes, the Savings & Loan Debacle. After all of this and the recession of 1990, I thought nobody with half the brain of a housefly would ever again believe the RepubliKANS and all their lies but they did and we have a high grade moron in the White House. Now they are oh so busy sending jobs overseas!
Then came Clinton: had a lot of faults, to be sure and who cared if he had sexual indiscretions: he balanced the budget and created a surplus. What did Dubya give us? Gallons of more red ink. The national debt is up to about 9 trillion now and most of that was created by Dubya.
Just so you clowns know: I am not a liberal. I was against all that insanity of the late 1960’s and early 1970’s. I am a Centrist and a Pragmatist! But it will be a cold day in hell before I ever vote for a RepubliKAN again!
N.K.
1/18/06
Hello ..
Hi -
Is Andrew gay? I'm just wondering 'cause he sorta looks gay.
Also ... do you think Ann Coulter might be Marilyn Manson in drag? You know ... sort of a "day job" for Mr. Manson. What do you think? Ever see both of them in the same room at the same time?
Anyway ... keep up the good work. America can never have too many fascists.
Sincerely,
-Robert Nelson-
Paul Kay, kay@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU
1/18/06
Admiration
Hello Mr. Andrew Jones,
I'll admire you if you have the honesty and confidence to answer the following question. Since your nearly invisible print acknowledges that you are not connected either with the UCLA Alumni Association or, for that matter, with UCLA in any official respect, why did you adopt a name that declares to all but the most attentive that you represent the official alumni organization of UCLA? Second question: Are you ashamed or afraid to present yourself honestly to the world?
Paul Kay
*******************************************
Paul Kay
<kay@icsi.berkeley.edu>
International Computer Science Institute
1947 Center Street, Suite 600
Berkeley, CA 94720, USA
Trevor Przyuski, mrzyuski@earthlink.net
1/18/06
Thank you for the
chuckle…
If your web site wasn't so rediculously fear-soaked and white-angst ridden, it would be a matter of concern to those of us who welcome all voices and ideas into the American experience. To my knowledge UCLA doesn't require anyone to enroll in African American Studies, or any other multi-cultural programs. So why are you getting your panties in a bunch? Afraid that it's one small step toward toppling the precious white-male-American power paradigm? With all of the troubles our country now faces thanks to our so-called leaders, don't you have more pressing concerns to waste your time with than harrassing liberal minded professors? And by the way, what part of the word "professor" don't you get? To "profess" is to make public one's ideas, beliefs, understandings and perceptions of the world. Is one's "profession" only valid if those ideas, beliefs, and understandings mesh with yours.
Free your mind, you facist, racist clown, and the rest will follow.
Sincerely,
M. Trevor Przyuski
mprzyuski@earthlink.net
Philip, ethabhae@earthlink.net
1/18/06
UCLA Professor bias
I am a Young Republican at UCLA, and I would like to denounce my Potions professor, Severus Snape. On multiple occassions he has diverted the class lecture from how to create love potions or certain poisons to rant about Exalted Leader George W. Bush (who he often refers to as a "mudblood," a little-known insult among left-wingers), speaking blasphemy about our President's plan for America in the War on Terror.
Can I have a hundred dollars if I provide tape recordings? There is some O'Reilly Factor merchandise I did not get for Christmas.
Philip
The son of a bitch is a ballet dance! He's the best ballet dancer that ever lived, and if I get a good chance, I'll strangle him with my bare hands. -W.C. Fields on Chaplin
Steve Holzmann, sgh111@hotmail.com
1/18/06
My support
I am supporting you with my thoughts and prayers that our lord jesus christ who died for our sins will smite our enemies and make them pay for their wrong beliefs...
Pete Dixon, dixon_peter@rogers.com
1/18/06
Even-handedness?
Do you pay the same $100 for reports on profs who spend class time supporting Bush?
I think not..
Pete Dixon
Toronto, ON
Karmen Patton, uceyecandy@sbcglobal.net
1/18/06
Bruin alumni website
I just want you to know that I hate your website and that the only reason why all those professors are listed is because they are telling the truth about America, a truth in which you refuse to accept. You'd rather professors tell lies about the racist world that we live in, so that students can remain ignorant about America and believe in meritocracy and that this is the land of the free and all that other bullshit that we learn during our K-12 education. I think your website is racist (as evidence by the rating system... black power fists??) and I just hate it... And you probably don't give two shits about what I think, but I had to let you know.
Maya Cox, musicgirl1999@yahoo.com
1/18/06
A little bitter?
First of all, you organization is not a non-profit because a dot com distinction means that it is for profit. I don't see the web site being assiciated with a .edu, .org, or .net address. Secondly, you are probably bitter that some of your instructors gave you bad marks on your papers. Probably because you were incompetent academically, not because they were "liberal". A University like UCLA reflects California and the population. There are conservative instructors there and at UC Berkeley (where I attended school). If you don't like an instructor, change sections, get a different class. I was part of the church of christ as a uc berkeley student. As conservative as they come, but I welcomed the exchange of ideas. If you truly wanted to be in an environment where everyone was conservative, you should have gone to a private religious institution and not a UC. Instead of trying to get professors fired, why don't you take your conservative zeal and help the less fortunate in LA. That would truly be a better use of time. Like my being in graduate school for nursing, while you are trying to ruin the lives of others. That is beyond ungodly.
Maya
Hervey Allen, hervey@uoregon.edu
1/18/06
UCLAProfs
Mr. Jones:
This is scary stuff you do.
From your own web site you say:
"As a large number of the profiles also demonstrate, these professors are actively proselytizing their extreme views in the classroom, whether or not the commentary is relevant to the class topic."
Then, I must ask, how does one justify "radical" right-wing views being expressed as well? What should I do if I sit in class and my professor espouses a viewpoint I consider to be extreme in its conservative nature? Should I set up a group such as yours?
Clearly extreme views, left and right, are expressed by professors in class. Whether appropriate or not don't you think that's something the students can decide by simply not signing up for that professor's classes?
Freedom of Expression is fundamental to our great country. Organizations such as UCLAProfs.com do nothing but weaken this fundamental right - for both sides.
I am sure you have many arguments to support what you do, but at the core your group simply stifles expression and Freedom of Speech. This is _not_ a patriotic thing you do. It's inherently un-American. Please reconsider your course and channel your frustration at these people in a more constructive manner.
Sincerely,
Hervey Allen
Employee (not professor)
University of Oregon
Jeff Freymueller, jfreymue@gi.alaska.edu
1/18/06
‘fess up!
Gee, I guess you have not been able to find even a *single*
right-wing professor who injects bias into the classroom? No wonder
conservatives have to resort to dirty tricks, innuendo and distortion so often
through the web and specialty media -- they are just too fair-minded to ever
abuse positions of power or authority for political ends!
Jeff
1/18/06
Hi, radical
professors?
You do not like radical professors or something?
Left radicals are good for going against right radicals.
Thus, the middle ground comes out to win.
The middle ground is the mean between the extremes and classical philosophical way.
It is also where there is and will be most unity.
Louis Broome, louisbroome@hotmail.com
1/18/06
Thank you for all
your hard work. How can I contribute?
Dear Bruin Alumni,
A dear friend of mine told me about your work and sent me your email address. I'm contacting you to let you know that I appreciate the work you're doing to expose UCLA's radical professors. I'm writing to thank you and to offer you my encouragement and possibly my financial support.
I'm not a graduate of UCLA but I have visited your lovely campus. What a delight! Oh, how I wish I'd had the opportunity to have been a Bruin. I graduated from a small, private university in the midwest. Lovely old buildings, a wonderful neighborhood, marvelous professors, but none of the advantages or opportunities UCLA affords.
Regarding your work, I applaud your efforts to expose professors who use their position to influence young minds. How dare they challenge heretofore unchallenged assertions! The best professors take an impressionable young mind, nurture it lovingly and then send it out into the world having left no impression whatsoever. The worst of the lot fill young minds with thoughts, especially thoughts that are not their own, and then send them on their way with opinions. Opinions are like... well, you know.
To the point, I hope your student-spies weed out every professor preaching the gospel of Oxford. Edward de Vere, XVII Earl of Oxford, did not write the plays attributed to Shakespeare - Shakespeare did! Oxfordians are to historians what intelligent designers are to science and the law - clueless idiots.
If you can promise me that you will hunt down and crucify every UCLA professor spewing Oxfordian nonsense, I'll make a generous donation to your fine organization.
I look forward to your reply.
Regards,
Louis Broome
Seattle
Rodger Lodge, hellabad2000@yahoo.com
1/18/06
info request
i hope you facist fucks rot in hell. you stand for everything america is not and i wish the worst upon your orginazation.
fuck you
Sean Leys, seanleys@riseup.net
1/18/06
McLaren
I like McLaren. At least he's trying to ask the key question that Angelinos who care about public education need to ask - why is there a gap between the educational achievement of poor people and people of color compared to rich and/or white people? Or, specifically for today's Angelinos, why the test gap between us and them? And no, that question was not answered in the any of the "2,000 year of civilization" that has supposedly exhausted the subject of education research. Anyways, if you spent one semester in an L.A. public high school trying to explain the benefits of capitalism to a bunch of pissed off ghetto and barrio kids you'd be left searching for some deeper thinking on educational politics than I find in your webpages. Well, maybe not you, your criticisms of detached ideologues sounds a lot like you're projecting your own problems on others.
JRG, jrgva2003@yahoo.com
1/18/06
Recent CNN coverage
of the BAA
January 18, 2005
Mr. Andrew Jones
President
Bruin Alumni Association
P.O. Box 221
Culver City, CA 90232
Dear Mr. Jones:
I can across the Bruin Alumni Association web site after reading about it on CNN’s US Edition Education Section:
(www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/01/18/professors.targeted.ap/index.html).
I wanted to thank you for your efforts in exposing the overt left-wing radicalism of professors within the UC system and specifically at UCLA. Your website provided hours of mirth, side-splitting laughter, and more than a few loud guffaws that made an otherwise drab day bright.
Without doubt my favorite part of the site is, of course, the petition page listing hundreds of radical petitions signed by UCLA faculty. In fact, 231 faculty (including a number of Emeritus faculty), signed a total of 472 such petitions over an 11 year period of time (1995-present). Wow! That averages to almost one signed petition every five years for each faculty member (where do they find the time to exercise their constitutional rights like that?)! Cogito ergo sum indeed. Such radicalism MUST be stopped at all costs! I would strongly recommend that you write your governmental representatives immediately to institute a formal requirement for all UC system faculty, included those that are retired from the system (to cover those pesky Emeritus and recalled faculty), to revoke and resend any claim that they have as individuals to exercise their rights and spelled out in the Bill of Rights and First Amendment as a condition of their employment. You know- that stupid Freedom of Expression thing. After all, teaching tomorrows leaders and never having to “actually leave the theory-based fantasy world of college to pursue a real job” is such a privilege that every UC employee, from the lowliest janitor to the Regents themselves, should never need or want to exercise those rights either in the context of the operations of the university or in their personal lives. Of course all thoughts that are anti-Israel, anti-Bush, and anti-war are, by their very definition, completely radical and left-wing. I know that as a red blooded flag waving American I would never, ever want petitions concerning human rights, the defense of freedom, the defense of free speech, and peace to ever be read by my governmental representatives. Could you imagine the utter CHAOS that having such thoughts enshrined as actual laws or policy would cause. God knows I’m all for less freedom, fewer human rights, and more war. Amen brother.
On a final note in relation to the CNN article, I’m VERY impressed with the data that you have collected and presented on your web site for the improper incorporation of radical views in the classroom, especially considering that a full 50% of the faculty listed in your “Initial Offering of Profiles” come from the Law School and the History Department. Again God knows that the Law is the Law; there is never room for interpretation or alternate viewpoints. The HUGE quantity of data that you present supporting your supposition is simply astounding. I demand that the Regents investigate immediately and discipline every professor who has EVER written any article, brief, note, or even doodled a drawing leaning toward the left.
You sir, are a genius and a scholar. You must be making UCLA very proud to call you one of their alumni. The clear, concise, and razor-sharp reasoning skills that you show in the various analysis of radicalism in the UCLA professoriate are beyond the pale. And kudos to CNN as well for its continued coverage of important world events, such as the existence of the Bruin Alumni Association. If the current trend in CNN’s news coverage continues, it will be completely devoid of all actual news by 2007 (except for Nick and Jessica, of course).
Sincerely,
Joel Gillespie
Virginia
T.J. Kong, tjk1776@yahoo.com
1/18/06
America-Hating
Liberal Professors
Dear Bruin Alumni Association,
When first hearing of your website, I thought it must be a hoax perpetrated by liberal students on the UCLA campus to ridicule and defame true conservatives. However, upon visiting your website I realized that you gentlemen are true patriots who are serving your country in a way that our heroes overseas would truly appreciate. After all, who wants to fight for a society that hates the military? I am often sickened by the actions of my fellow students and the faculty at this institution with their one-sided "debates" in class and their propensity for holding
left-wing-oriented events on campus. I would not even be attending the UCLA (ACLU anagram?) if my parents did not insist: I wanted to attend Bob Jones
University, where I would not be subjected to all this liberal claptrap, but my parents wanted me to get a "real" education. Real if you are an America-hating
pinko hippy maybe!
Anyways, on to my complaint. I have a professor, Dr. Alexi Sadesky, who is so indoctrinated in left-wing propaganda that he cannot go one class period without bringing up how much he hates Christianity. And this in a biology course! He is constantly talking about "evolution" and "the descent of man" which, I have
been informed, is a book written by that God-hater Darwin himself. It seems like every time I try to bring up biblical evidence that the earth was only created 6000 years ago, and that man was made in the image of God and given dominion over all life, I get laughed at by the whole class! I have e-mailed this professor about his attitude towards divine creation and he has advised me against a career in science education, my lifelong dream. This professor also enjoys many mainstream movies, according to my sources, proving that he is in league with the liberal haven of Hollywood. I mean, the man is practically a bomb-thrower himself! As if that was not enough, he has a Kerry '04 bumper sticker on his car. He also advocates the fluoridation of water! I'll stick with my bottled water, thank you very much. I am sick and tired of his oppression of my beliefs and his obvious obsession with left-wing causes. Anything you, my fine gentlemen, can do to bring this traitor, Dr. Alexi Sadeski, to justice would be greatly appreciated
by a true patriot.
Heterosexually yours,
T.J. Kong, Patriot
1/18/06
question
I wish you success with your work if it is about furthering a dialogue and making sure that all opinions are valued and represented, but I am wondering if you would categorize yourself as a Christian Zionist. You seem to take particular issue with Jews who criticize Israel. I have to ask if you are one of those who wants to hasten the Second Coming by securing borders for the modern state of Israel that are supposed to conform to what some believe were the Biblical borders. If not, may I ask what are your religious beliefs?
Please inform.
Sincerely,
C.T. Carlton
Angel Covarrubias, angel@jps.net
1/18/06
ABC NEWS &
PROFILES
Dear Sir/Madam:
I saw a report on your site on ABC news today. I went there expecting to find a site regarding incompetent UCLA staff, instead I found a site that makes fun of people.
Example: "by the nigh-unspellable Azteco-babble name of Huitzilixtlitiu,". I happen to know that Mr. Aguilar enjoyed dancing as a hobby at UCLA, and he used a stage name when performing at Pow-wow celebrations which I attended. The food and entertainment was wonderfull at these events. One of the perks of being a Bruin...
In regards to the Charter School Mr. Aguilar founded; "Academia..."
I looked at http://www.dignidad.org/english/governance.html and it is a Charter school that has kept its charter in full compliance with No Child Left Behind (NCLB) and CA law. A Charter School such as that established by Mr. Aguilar is a strong argument for Vouchers in Public Education.
The fact that they also add art and language courses in ADDITION to the mastery of the state mandated/NCLB mandated standards is an asset to those students. Involving parents in school decision making has been a goal in education since the PTA. Again, it seems you insult people for self-reliance, something you apparantly find amusing.
I am not sure what insulting people (many of whom you acknowlege pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps) on your site accomplishes. Several of your profiles seem a name-calling exercise.
The idea of community service and higher education intersecting (advocated by many of your profiled educators) has a long history dating back to Harvard in Colonial times.
Gomez-Quinones is in agreement with the Editorial Board of the Wall Street Journal in regards to his stance on Immigration. Yet you call him a radical, unfit to teach about Southwestern American History because he agrees with the Wall Street Journal regarding immigration in America. Immigration is central to understanding California History dating back to the Gold Rush 49ers. Gomez is stating a view shared by many Americans as sensible in regards to having a guest worker program.
Perhaps you should take the Editorial Board of the Wall street Journal and Dow Jones and Co. to task "because it mouths a typical extreme piece of illegal immigrant apologia, namely that the American and Californian economies would experience a workforce crisis should immigration policy be fully enforced." Good Economic/Business Policy often makes interesting bedfellows. Just look at the Dow-Jones & Gomez-Quinones bed. If you wanted to say that your comments in regards to immigration are in line with the "finest" from the Investor's Business Daily "editorial board" then you should have said so at the onset. Business supports a guest worker program. The comments by CEO after CEO in the Wall Street Journal, day after day, regarding immigration are in line with Dr. Gomez-Quinones as well.
Dr. Gomez-Quinones is an excellent writer and his books are widely available. He believes that the future of Mexican-American/Chicanos is the same one of Irish/German/Italian-Americans: assimilation. The fact that Hispanics/Latinos marry outside the Latino ethnic group at the highest rate of any ethnic group in American History is something that Dr. Gomez-Quinones saw coming long before it started happening. He did not lecture against love in any class I ever had, in case you are wondering. Dr. Gomez-Quinones believes Hispanics in the USA will one day be as indistinguishable from other Americans as European-Americans are today. This is the big, "radical" idea that he believes is coming for Mexican-Americans/Chicanos specifically and Latinos in general. How radical, Hispanics are being assimilated into the USA, just like the Irish before them. And it is due to Love & Marriage.
Overall your site is illuminating. It shows you are apt to engage in name-calling of tenured faculty.
Your casual broad brush painting is so...Trojan.
Rick Memmer, rmemmer@carolina.rr.com
1/18/06
Something to
consider…
“The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or anyone else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about anyone else.”
Theodore Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star, 149
May 7, 1918
No anti-war here, but I am anti-counterfeit, and you would better serve your cause to realize that ALL of these stooges (left, right, middle… matters not) are LIARS. And should you find the courage to respond, I suggest you pack some genuine arguments to support your case. And no, I’m not going to make a case here, but should you desire to be TRULY informed… I’d be more than happy to share hundreds of articles, evidence, and the 3 years of writing on the subject of the war and pre-war intelligence (way before it all went to hell).
I wonder, would any onslaught of incongruity prompt the garden variety Bush minion to change his or her mind? This Administration is a bottomless pit of colossal lies and intellectual cowardice, and in their defense is an army of partisan hacks acting as if mendacity is a virtue. Their prime directive is to serve the masses a calculated menu of “everything you want to hear so you can remove your brain from the equation.” Without even the slightest notion of context or evidence, the hermetically sealed follower resorts to this rolodex of mindless absurdity:
1. Liberal Media
2. Bush hater
3. Christian hater
4. Family hater
5. Traitor
6. Disgruntled Employee
7. We’re waiting on the facts
(never mind that we shun facts like the plague whenever they’re inconvenient)
8. You’re miserable and angry!
9. Liberal-loving America hater
10. Bush is a Godly man
(save it for the church… down here we have these things called laws, and no amount of pseudo-Jesus-loving hypocrisy should shield anyone from accountability).
It’s almost hard for me to believe that we live in a free country… given such rampant repugnance for reason. When will you wake up and realize that there is no such thing as a brand of BS that is superior to another? It’s all just shoveling crap in the end, and no words could accurately describe my revulsion for such fraudulence.
Sorry souls above the earth
Lacking Courage to Question
Hiding behind masking Divine
Curiosity Devoid, Absent of Reason
Trouncing thy Neighbor Always in Season
Squanderers of Truth, Servants of the Lie
Look the other way while we ask Why
Sing your songs heaping praises
Lumping Lord and Leaders
Undiscerning Two-Faces
Save your prayers I’m six feet below
Might be Alive
Without your refusal to know
Gina Demirchyan, missgina@hotmail.com
1/18/06
SAREE
MAKDISI???????????
I heard about your website on the Fox 11 news tonight. I decided to visit. Regardless of what your extremely right-winged, Pro-Semitic, Pro-War, Anti-Arab opinionated fellow Republicans may think, MAKDISI WAS THE ONLY PROFESSOR WHO TAUGHT ME ANYTHING WORTHWHILE. And guess what? He doesn't have to pay me money to say that :) Get a real job. Like the rest of us successful, enlightened graduates from our wonderful university. You share a lot in common with many, if not all, of those professors on your list.
Sincerely,
Gina G Demirchyan
D.S., dorstein@yahoo.com
1/18/06
More Radical
Professors
Dear Sirs,
While I am not affiliated in any way with UCLA, I am
aware of the work which is done by the departments of
mathematics and computer science at your very
admirable school. I am concerned however, that many
of the faculty in both departments may be harboring
and propagating such subversive methods as
"integration" and "algorithm analysis". I am
currently in correspondence with the Discovery
Institute regarding the organization of a dramatic
push against these Secular Hilbertists and their
anti-American dogmatic adherence to mathematics (we
will, instead, replace the curriculum with a
numerology-based approach). While they haven't
written back yet (I'm sure they're very busy these
days) I can assure you that, as soon as they do
respond, we'll be paying these scoundrels and reds a
much overdue visit. In the meantime, I'd like to ask
that your organization keep a special eye out for
anyone poffering such novel and laughable notions as
"proof".
Also, I'll be sure to let you know the next time that
someone suggests to me that Ariel Sharon may not walk
on water. Which he wouldn't, anyway, since that would
also be a metaphorical reference to Jesus, who is
himself an anti-Semitic lie. I suppose, in light of
that, I'd better report anyone who does think that
Ariel Sharon walks on water as well. Wait! That must
mean the whole world is harboring anti-Semitic
sentiment! We have to act now -- there isn't a moment
to lose!
Sincerely,
A Concerned Citizen
Walker Anderson, wanderso@san.rr.com
1/19/06
Why don't you rich, whining, polo shirt wearing, bush loving, Fox news watching right wing punks go fight the war in Iraq instead of cheering from the comfort and safety of your living room? I guess you and Cheney had "other priorities".
Stephen Wilson, stephenw@ucla.edu
1/19/06
my opinion
i heard about you guys on the radio this morning, and checked out your site. my conclusion: you are a bunch of losers. get a life. especially andrew jones. did you notice you have already graduated? move on already.
p.s. opposing the iraq war is not "radical".
Young Cho, youngjcho@gmail.com
1/19/06
Disgrace for UCLA
Hello BAA and Andrew Jones,
I have to say that I was in the dark about your association's activities until this morning, when I came across an article on cnn.com stating that your UCLA organization was fighting to remove "radical" professors from its campus. I am a 2003 UCLA graduate and am appalled by your point of view and blatant disregard for our first amendment rights. Organizations like yours are a serious threat to our society, much more so than leftist professors you seek to crucify. In our country where our current administration has done all in its power to limit the opposing voices, the professors who take the time to clarify the issues and promote intelligent discussion are a breath of fresh air and needed to prevent absurd policies promoted by those in your organization. I am ashamed that you have tainted UCLA's great name and will make sure that my voice is heard to put an end to the BAA. You don't represent UCLA and America's values. Illegal wiretapping, justifiable torture, illegal wars, and countless other gross violations of human's rights all come from your camp. The War on Terror is not a legitimate reason to abandon the Constitution and place certain ethnicities such as Muslims at fault. Unless you are Muslim, you do not have idea what kind of harassment and ridicule 9/11 has brought them. In all honesty, your own experiences being mocked for your beliefs at UCLA should have made you more understanding of their situation. Your actions will ultimately fail because the faculty, students, and adminstration are some of the most intelligent, tolerant, and understanding people in the world. Remember, UCLA is in California not the South. Your organization's brand of McCarthyism will not stand. Thank you.
Young
Class of 2003
Richard Goodwin, grimpeur@gmail.com
1/19/06
Radical Professors?
nice one...
are you some sort of facist skinhead? FUCK George Bush!
by the way, your website is an ugly piece of crap. i bet you "designed" it.
reg
Eric Flores, uclabruin25@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Webpage
I ran into your page because of a NBC news article. I believe you should post a discussion board or comment page so you can show people both point of views or spark an educated discussion. UCLA students are smart enough or at last should be, to sort out all the "leftist" views as you say, and create their own point of view. I would argue that the public in general is too stupid to create their own point of view. I can say my views have been shaped by some "leftist" ideals, but I can sort through it and disregard what I would consider a load of BS. I agree with your view that affirmative action is flawed, during my stay at UCLA, I have met a few individuals who I believe didn't deserve to be there.
Your outing of "left wing" professors is similar to Senator McCarthy and his witch hunts of suspected communists. You are trying to blacklist these professors for their beliefs. So what if they express their views instead of an equal weighting, don't blame the professors, blame the idiot student who believes anything the professor says. You can compare that student to the public who believed
George W. Bush that there was massive amounts of WMD in Iraq. This person can't think for himself and instead looks to the professor or to a concerned alumni such as yourself for direction.
All in all, to each their own. You have your beliefs and I mine. Just thought I'd throw you my two cents and see how you like them.
UCLA Alum 2004
-E
Edwin Demper, gnnorrt@gmail.com
1/19/06
ideological bias
Dear president,
I have just become aware of your initiative to monitor the ideological bias of college professors. Your concern is that personal politics might have a negative impact on the quality of teaching. This concern is legitimate. However, your research methods, stated and implicit goals, and perspective, are not.
As to the first, your website reflects that your investigations rely heavily on investigating personal belief. It is neither relevant nor ethical to look at a professor's personal politics for your stated goals. Party affiliation, blogs, signed petitions, etc. should be considered off limits to you as they are not directly related to the content of the class. Obtaining tapes of lectures is in some cases disallowed by professors (because these can be sold to truants). Only obtaining notes is acceptable, although you appear to have no validation system to critically evaluate what you receive. Regardless of your ideology, that's bad research.
As to your goals, the stated goal is to map the most radical professors. The how or why is something you barely address - what sort of negative influence and how you seek to measure it, or what value your research could be is left in the dark. It makes me suspect you did not pay much attention during your stay as an undergraduate. Also, while you claim to chart extreme ideological bias, your rhetoric and methods look exclusively for left-wing bias. Sure, universities are known as liberal strongholds, and have a majority of left-oriented staff, but it would be interesting and relevant to find out the stance of the (few) republicans teaching. The reason why is, of course, that your implicit goal is to somehow curb professor's rights to political expression in classrooms.
Luckily, you have neither the authority nor the backing to do so. Which leads me on to my final question: how come that, for an initiative so concerned with ideology you fail to account for your own ideological bias anywhere? It can only be pieced together. How come you start this initiative as a grassroots, amateurish research, rather than proposing an independent, third party research if you are truly concerned with political bias? Why do you not critique the review system that the university has in place? What is your precise relation to UCLA; there is a disclaimer at the bottom, but I could find no information on for instance how many supporters you have (I assumed the 320 mentioned in your cv were on-campus bruin republicans).
In short, my impression is that your initiative is fatally flawed on almost all fronts. By all means inform me of any errors of judgment in my evaluation.
kind regards,
Edwin Demper
Jason Daverth, jdaverth@tcd.ie
1/19/06
Submission
Hey, keep up the good work there!
I’m not sure we should just limit ourselves to faculty. In fact, there is a particular member of staff that has been very active in promoting his wacked-out leftism all over the quad. His name is Jorge Formeno and I see him out there every afternoon harassing good students with his ridiculous ideas about what he calls core-values.
I mean, some of this stuff is way out there! He wants to make sure all children in the country have health care, he wants to ensure that the tax burden does not fall disproportionately upon the poor and middle-class, and the most ridiculous thing of all is that he is trying to convince people of this ridiculous idea that politicians shouldn’t be allowed to lie and break the law in order to do what the rest of us clearly know is in our best interest. What a tool!
I’m so glad to know that there are people like you out there fighting the good fight. Until the rapture comes, I will dream of a world where Republicans are in charge of every aspect of my life.
Yours so very sincerely,
Jesus
1/19/06
From CNN news website
RELATED
• Bruin Alumni Association
University of California Los Angeles
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- An alumni group is offering students up to $100 per class to supply tapes and notes exposing professors who allegedly express extreme left-wing political views at the University of California, Los Angeles.
One of the professors calls it McCarthyism.
Is this true? Why would you do such a thing? Are you not in favor of free speech? This is a real dose of cold water thrown on what the U.S. stands for and, if the article is correct, hardly speaks well of UCLA alumni in your association.
John Hall, jhallbox@gmail.com
1/19/06
Culver city liberals
People like you seem to hate all of the ideals America was founded on.
I hope you choke to death on your own bile and fucking die.
You piece of fucking shit. Go live in China, fascist.
Timothy J. Beck, tjbeck@usfca.edu
1/19/06
Regarding
UCLAProfs.com
Dear Andrew Jones,
As you congratulate yourself for the now-national publicity
surrounding your new website "UCLAProfs.com," I wonder if you have
considered how that publicity is playing out among the general public.
>From where I sit, some 400 miles and five years from Westwood, the
message that some UCLA professors are responsible for a "debased
education" at UCLA does not merely make those professors look bad,
which is no doubt part of your intent, but also threatens to degrade
the public's image of UCLA as a whole, which I can only hope is *not*
your intent.
I invested a great deal of time, effort and money into my
undergraduate UCLA education. I am concerned that, in serving your own
political agenda you may very well be reducing the value and prestige
of that investment. I implore you to reconsider your tactics.
--T.J. Beck, UCLA Class of 2001
Student of Law, University of San Francisco
Nadja Maurer, CETplus1@web.de
1/19/06
UCLA-Profs
Hello,
I just read about your "exorcism-project". The opinions of these professors who are insulted to be ideologically irresponsible are common sense ideas in most parts of the rest of the world. Writing from Germany there are some notions to think about maybe:
1. YOUR methods (paying students as spies) are exactly the ones used by former soviet secret service agents. Teaching needs freedom of speech.
2. Marxist, feminist, racist or deconstruction theories are a minimum stardard in an academic institution. Why defend them?
3. You mention that Anti-americanism and Anti-capitalism (interesting to name close-by) would be tought. To teach Americanism and Capitalism profoundly pt. 2 theories are necessarily required, right?
4. In fact, there are parallels to the 3rd Reich and to perishing roman empire too, if you take a closer look at the US today.
Ideas like radical-of-the-week open the floodgates to totalitarism and non-democratic practice. Welcome to post-politic fascism!
Sincerely
Nadja Maurer, phD candidate Cultural Anthropology
Chris Butterick, butterick@gmail.com
1/19/06
Professor Profiling
Greetings. My name is Chris and I'm a senior majoring in English at
UCLA. I recently learned of the bruinalumni.com site from an AP story
on CNN.com. When I linked to your site I went straight to the list of
professors to see if there were any listed therein who had taught any
of my classes. I was excited to see Professor Watson there because he
is a professor whom I hold in high regard. I took the Later
Shakespeare class (142B) with Professor Watson last quarter, Fall '05.
Whatever his familial history and political leanings may amount to, I
firmly believe that he is a brilliant and inspiring expert concerning
the works of William Shakespeare. During our bi-weekly meetings there
were several asides made concerning the present political climate, but
this in no way distracted from his lessons on the course subject. His
ability to recognize patterns across literary, historical, and
cultural planes - combined with the verbal mastery to communicate them
- makes him a revered fellow among students and colleagues alike.
With regard to your Professor Profile of him on your site, the first
paragraph merits a few responses. You display throughout the
remainder of your article a command of his personal and epistolary
history I am in no position to dispute, but I do know a few things
about the study of English. What strikes me as inconsistent is that
your label of "retrograde" and subsequent (and inaccurate) dismissal
of Shakespeare puts you and Professor Watson in a seemingly related
position: just as you express on your site a preference towards what
Ben Shapiro called "traditional morality and values" under fire from
radicals like Professor Watson, so too is he in fact fighting to
validate the traditional relevance of Shakespeare in the face of a
student population increasingly resistant to his study. The
difference that appears to me is that Professor Watson was wildly
successful in his endeavor. I left class each day with a renewed
passion not only for Shakespeare but also for the very concept of
education. The Bard never felt more relevant and I have Professor
Watson to thank.
I consider myself mildly above average in terms of political awareness
and any mention in class of political figures or current events was
not lost on me. And whether I agreed with his views or not, my point
is that his political sidenotes were always a supplement to the course
material and not a digression from it. Much of your Profile deals
with his correspondence with the Daily Bruin, and you clearly know a
good deal about what transpired there. I'm writing to tell you that
if the group you represent is concerned with what goes on in the
classroom, then Professor Watson is doing an exceptional job of
teaching Shakespeare. This, at the end of the day, is what I pay him
to do. And he does it better than just about anyone else in the
world, which is a standard we both expect from our esteemed
University.
I don't harbor and delusions that this letter will in any way "clear"
Watson's name: if politics is your focus then Dr. Watson has a
documented opinion that opposes your own. But if you are concerned
about the caliber of instruction provided by Professors on your
five-fist list, I'm pleased to tell you that all is well with Watson.
Thank you very much for reading. You seem very motivated and I wish
you the best as this chapter of your life unfolds.
Sincerely, -Chris Butterick
1/19/06
VAFFANCULO AMERICANI
FASCISTI DI MERDA
VIVA IL COMUNISMO.
AMERICANI FASCISTI E RAZZISTI DEL CAZZO, ANDATE A CAGARE.
CHE GUEVARA VI HA CAGATI E VOI SIETE NATI, RAZZISTI, CAPITALISTI E FASCISTI DEL CAZZO.
VIVA LE PANTERE NERE. VIVA I RAGAZZI DEI GHETTI CHE UN GIORNO VI FARANNO IL CULO IMBECILLI TELEDIPENDENTI DEI MIEI COGLIONI.
10 100 1000 VIETNAM.
FIDEL, CHAVEZ, LULA, EL COMANDANTE MARCOS E TUTTI GLI ITALIANI COMUNISTI VI MANDANO A CAGARE E VI MALEDICONO.
SIETE SOLO DEI FALLITI ROTTI IN CULO.
PEZZI DI MERDA
SE L'UOMO E' FIGLIO DI DIO, VOI SIETE LE SUE SCORREGGE. VERGOGNATEVI USURPATORI DI MORALITA' MONDIALE.
QUANDO I NERI, GLI ISPANICI, GLI IMMIGRATI E I POVERI CHE AVETE NEL VOSTRO FINTO PAESE DI MERDA SI SOLLEVERANNO, VEDREMO IL VOSTRO CORAGGIO.
FIDEL, CHAVEZ E MARCOS VI FARANNO IL CULO.
10 100 1000 VIETNAM
an, anna62@libero.it
1/19/06
Bruin Alumni
Association
I've visited your site and I pray for America: day by day You and other peole like you make America more fascist! Poor Americans without democracy!
Anna Boscolo
Constantino Ciervo, ciervo@arcor.de
1/19/06
thank you
*grazie per la vostra lista. Questi sono ottimi professori e interessanti.!!
thanks for your list. These are good and interesting professors.!!
Danke für diese Liste. Es sind gute und interessante Professoren !!*
costantino ciervo
rainy days, rainydays_it@yahoo.it
1/19/06
Democracy and
Mediocrity
Dear Mr. Jones,
I am an italian man 35 years old, who is actually a
strategist for my company. I had the chance to see
your web site, and I jumped on my chair.
In the 90's I was a student here in italy and I was
excited by the idea to improove my management school
at UCLA. Finally I had the opportunity to start
working immediately so that I was not able to come
there.
Now I consider my self as a lucky guy because I was
not there, I belive that your web site it repreasents
to be a weak point of this university.
It is scandalously stupid in my opinions that the
teachers have to be hurted and humilated with Marx
mustaches.
A real democracy they (Ghandy, Kennedy, Rouscvelt)
teach me is that you have the same chance to me to
talk about anything and I have to defend your opinions
(cause you must free to express).
But reading your website, I have a question..what will
your next steps? Maybe you will deny the comunism
and..we go to have war in Iran for democracy, sorry
but this is not acceptable, this is simply funny. You
seated in the cloud and despiting about what it is
good and what it is bad..please, please..your country
is the same country who guessed people like Charlie
Chaplin, who laughed at people like you..what about
the idea to consider also him as a comunist, maybe
today who thinks in a different way it is a
comunist....
Waiting for your consideration.
Suzanne Dunham, dunhamfarm@msn.com
1/19/06
Vigilanti
Mr. Andrews:
I am outraged by the actions of the Bruin Alumni Association of UCLA. I read an article this morning that you pay students to turn in professor's names who may be speaking out about the state of our country. This is how you set an example of our young people? Is this America? I cannot believe that your organization is essentially forming a vigilanti organization to go after people who do not believe as you do. You are an alleged intelligent person and head of an organization of supposed intellectuals? God help us! You may wonder why the country is turning against the Republicans. This is a good example of why.
Suzanne Dunham
Maine
Marco Jansen, singlemalt@lycos.nl
1/19/06
radical profs.
Hey guys,
So this is the land of the free. Students making lists of radical profs if
their opinions doesn't suit the student.
Lowlife Scum!
By behaving like this, you remind me of the students of Mao Zedong during the
cultural revolution. Only you don't stare blind on Mao but on Bush.
I think there are a lot of changes in the us and you're partly responsible for.
Decreasing of freedom of speech, patriotism (or nationalism as we call it) and
the whole idea that you're or with the U.S and against terrorism or
against the US and aprove terrorism. This is complete BS.
But very dangerous. We've seen it before in our lovely europe. Before 1939:
You're either with germany or against germany and support jewish terrorism. So
if a prof. is warning about Bush Reich pay attention, he might be right. And
believe me everybody's hoping he's wrong including the prof.
So do the rest of th e world a favor and wake up, be aware and check history
because it keeps repeating itself!!! Before we all hate you, like that little
german with a small mustache.
carlo mazzetti, iam37y@hotmail.com
1/19/06
waste time a better
way
From this other side of the continent I have to say that you must finally gone crazy. wasting time to your self and the others. invest your time in a more profitable way
Francesco Torelli, ftorelli@theseainsurance.it
1/19/06
Dear Sirs,
the job you are doing is an insult to human intelligence and an amarcord of Senator McCarty way of behaving.
What is becoming of the U.S.?? What have you become?
Your political methods and way of life are simply unacceptable in a modern democracy...not the type of democracy your building up of course.
Best Regards
Francesco Torelli
1/19/06
Are you going to
war?!
Hi there,
i just read about your funny project. I always wonder how ignorant rich and plastic people can be - do they have problems?! Oh no , not really - mom or dad are paying their student taxes and later on they can go for their lunatic business on the global markets...KILLING INNOCENT AND POOR PEOPLE.
Welcome on planet idiot - you must be one of the leaders....
a fan from somewhere else
Paul, soulnyc@yahoo.com
1/19/06
UCLAprofs project
Thank you for providing us with the information on the most liberal professors at UCLA. It is inspiring to see how many such professors exist and I will certainly take the time to read more and more of their work.
Thank you for promoting liberals! You are doing a great job!
Oopps.... maybe that is the opposite of what you are trying to achieve, but hey... thanks anyway.
A VERY PROUD LIBERAL
Andrea Mattiello, andreama@MIT.EDU
1/19/06
I can’t believe it!
What is that?
http://www.uclaprofs.com/index.html
How can you do that?
How can you dare to insult the free rational thought of students, former students and colleagues?
Are you trying to limit the free of expression of free citizen, by imposing your point of view on reality? Who do you think you are?
Don't you think that people have enough critical and rational capacities to valuate by themselves whit whom they are talking to? Whit whom they are studying with?
It is so sad to see how smart people like you guys are wasting time and energy.
Good luck
andrea
Will Steele, wsteele@mindspring.com
1/19/06
You People are Scary
Your spying on professors for fun and profit scheme is bizarre and frightening, but not surprising. You learned well from your heroes; McCarthy, Hoover, Nixon, Agnew, Casey, Poindexter, North, Starr, Bush 43, Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, and many others.
Matthew Richard, mjrichar@valdosta.edu
1/19/06
clowns
i heard the piece on npr this morning. what clowns you must be.
paolo cioppa, paolocioppa@gmail.com
1/19/06
In all honesty, your association is such a shame for a wonderful university such as UCLA. Here is an article that says a few things about you guys, and it has been published on the main Italian newspaper. I bet that you do not care about foreign press anyways, and I am certain that you do not have that many Italian speakers in your association, but I believe that the article is interesting. And it shows you that you have gained international recognition.
Regards,
Paolo
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Esteri/2006/01_Gennaio/19/streghe.shtml
Aaron robert, aaron_robert2003@yahoo.co.uk
1/19/06
uclaprofs.com
In a country that values itself of rights to freedom of speech, what you're doing with this website is anti-American. The fact that you are doing this means you are no better than the terrorist bogeymen you and ilk go on about all the time.
But as usual, the fact that you are offering a cash sum to students to spy on their tutors, it is all about with you fuckers.
I am neither left-wing nor right-wing in my political views but what you are doing is wrong!
Julie Palmer, community4charity@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Senator McCarthy, is
it really you?
You must have been reincarnated. If not Senator McCarthy, were you a judge in early America in Salem, Massachusetts? Wow, proof finally exists. This is the only logic supporting this new brand of witch hunts in the U.S. One could argue that the RNC is brainstorming it's young members. Sad, Sad, Sad. Look in the mirror. You are guilty of the very same radical action that you hate.
Why do you heap hateful, divisive, hurtful words onto this community?
The dawn of a new age is coming. An age in which we will all finally embrace the words taught to us by Jesus to be loving, compassionate, giving and respectful to all human beings. Any action to the contrary is out of synch with the Divine and saddens our loving, merciful God.
I can only hope that you will wake up from the cloud of hate in which you live. For this I will pray for you.
Marshall Goldberg, mcgoldbe@msn.com
1/19/06
Joe McCarthy’s ghost
Dear Andrew Jones, . Is this pure opportunism -national news,IRS charitable status,feathers in the C.V. cap (watch out for avian flu these days ),an inside track to a think tank or to the 700 Club/Buchanan circuit? Or just pure nostalgia for the old witch-hunting ,cross-burning ,and 'auto-da-fe' days. You'll get your 15 minutes ,at least ,buying 'intelligence'. As the proud father and father-in-law of UCLA alumni, I find your efforts lower than many of our Taliban Christian and "compassionate" ultra-rights on-the-hoof. I venture you will be but a small,arcane footnote in the near future. Bon Voyage to obscurity and well-deserved bear scat status.
Luca Magnani, lmagnani@purdue.edu
1/19/06
shame on you all
Dear Bruin Alumni
just few words about your project: sounds like something that happened in
germany a long time ago....they were chasing jews, not radicals.
If you disagree with some political idea, there are many other way to explicit
this feeling.
The one you choose it's absolutely patethical...
n Luca Magnani Ph.D student ANSC Purdue University Lily 3202 Work 765 494 4824 Mobile 765 418 2561
1/19/06
Mr.
Jones,
I am an
Alumnus of the UCLA Architecture Department. After recently hearing a profile
of your organization on NPR, it is with disgust that I write this e-mail.
Your outing of professors
with political beliefs other than yours is nothing less than neo-McCarthyism.
Your tactics are essentially anti-free speech, divisive and repugnant. Granted,
you have every right to voice your disagreement with views espoused by anyone,
but to compile lists comprised of inflammatory rhetoric is akin to tactics used
in Nazi Germany, Stalin's USSR and petty dictatorships around the world.
Congratulations
Mr. Jones, Joseph Goebbels would be proud.
Alex
Bushkoff, Architecture
Shepley Bulfinch Richardson and Abbott
2 Seaport Lane, Boston, MA 02210
857.383.4335, tel
617.451.2420, fax
abushkoff@sbra.com, email
www.sbra.com, web
polarbasin, polarbasin@libero.it
1/19/06
Pathetic fascists…
You guys are a bunch of pathetic fascists!!!!!!! Poor UCLA. It wasn't enough to purge journalists, now you are going after the professors as well. May as well call you "Taliban University of Los Angeles". You ridiculous fools!
The two words thast appeared most often in Italian newspapers today were "witch hunt" and McCarthyism", but that probably makes you idiots proud. Go to hell!!
Nicola Sarn, nsarn@columbusmuseum.com
1/19/06
Left professors
Although wasting valuable class time to promote their personal political views, targeting professors in this way only makes you look like them, an extremist. Furthermore why have you not targeted right wing professors for the same thing? It sound like another party out to get someone instead of being positive, constructive and supportive of positive change. They may be wasting class time but you are wasting students time having them film and take notes about these things rather than paying attention and learning something whether its about far left politics or what they do or don’t want to believe they can always learn. I am very disappointed in the actions you have taken against professors. They are there because they care, what ever you feel about it, they are not criminals they are teachers. Find a more constructive way to spend your time and be an example of how not to waste your time.
Nicola Sarn
Darren Casella, artdeco42@gmail.com
1/19/06
question
I began checking out your web site after reading an article on cnn.com and am curious about something. I see you are clearly going after professors that you believe are left-wing radicals, but are you going after the right-wing radicals as well? I mean, if you check out history in general the left-wingers seem to do a lot less harm than the right-wingers, such as the current administration. I am against extremists overall, but if you are just going after the left, you may want to classify yourselves as part of the right-wing extremists just so we're all clear where you stand on things.
Darren Casella
Peggy Speas, pspeas@linguist.umass.edu
1/19/06
list
Dear Blacklisters,
Please post a list of the members of BruinAlumni.com. I'd like to see the names of the people who think that UCLA students are too stupid to be able to decide for themselves what to think, and so must not be allowed to hear any professor whose views you don't like.
You can put me on your radical blacklist. Although I'm not particularly radical and I'm not a UCLA professor, I'm proud to stand up for academic freedom.
Margaret Speas
University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Richard W Spears, RWSpears.architect@comcast.net
1/19/06
Andrew Jones,
I just heard the story on NPR about your alumni association and the monitoring being done of the left leaning ideological university facility. I would like to suggest that you may be out of place in LA and might want to consider moving to an area of the country that would best suit your ideas. Rural Georgia or a suburb of Atlanta would fit right in with your narrow minded, partisan, chauvinistic (look this word up to see how it fits), zealot point of view. This same sort of persecution occurred fifty years ago when Senator McCarthy ran amuck in Washington and in instead of a “dirty thirty” he had a “black list”.
Cordially,
Richard W Spears, AIA
Fayetteville, Georgia
Rene Rios, square_texas69@yahoo.com
1/19/06
unbelievable!
Mr. Jones, your associations decision to resort to
Nazi Gestapo tactics to attempt to silence educators
is ,to say the least, highly inappropriate. American
values?!! What is American about conducting a
witch-hunt in our nations universities? I am disgusted
by you and your association. These type of actions
are exactly what rabid liberals use as ammunition to
paint well meaning conservatives as nuts. Well, sir,
in my opinion, you are not a well meaning conservative
but you are definitely a nut!
Rene A Rios
Derek Meek, kazan@cs.iastate.edu
1/19/06
Hello!
Hello Comrade! The KGB requests you return to your post and resume looking over the shoulders of law abiding citizens! Your faithful prosecution of the jack-booted thug policy is sorely missed by the powermongers of the Eastern Bloc!
</tongue-in-cheek>
You people are a disgrace! This is America not Totalitarian Russia, or Nazi Germany, or any of the authoritarian states of the past and present. Stop trying to turn the United States into such a state!
You are not a conservative, you are a neofascist and you do all intelligent and considerate conservatives a great disservice.
Signed,
A Patriot Against Fascism
Blair Fetter, blairfetter@hotmail.com
1/19/06
you are a stupid
fucking idiot
Hi Andrew,
I'm a USC grad and even i think your witch hunt is about the dumbest thing i have ever heard.
College professors are liberal? what the fuck! that can't be!
Before you piss off more people, why don't you take your resources elsewhere and do something productive. Perhaps you can give a hundred dollars to each family that has suffered a loss in the war in Iraq.
Right now you are exemplifying the current republican ineptitude that is destroying our great country.
warm regards,
blair
Andrea, macri36@tiscali.it
1/19/06
letter from Italy
you American you surprise more and more for not knowing how to defend that democracy which boast. You will certainly have been a very bad student, and I recommend you instead of making the small Nazi, to read you Dante Alighieri, Immanuel Kant, Voltaire, Rosseau, and to go to Rome to visit the Chapel Sistina. Because you would also have reported Michelangelo Buonarroti besides your teachers.
I greet you, ignorant,
Bush pig.
http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/Esteri/2006/01_Gennaio/19/streghe.shtml
Wouldn’t you like to
know, gemmonkey@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Your site
...gave me a good laugh. Sanctimonious, psuedo-intellectual, racist, and sexist, all at once. Bravo!
I imagine this will be deleted, but I just wanted to encourage you not to give up the quest. We need more people like you sucking down resources to pursue what is obviously a personal grudge stemming from one's own lack of self-reflection. That, or small genitalia, I'm not exactly sure.
Priceless. Keep up the good work.
A thankful fan.
charles perrone, charles324@hotmail.com, cc: perrone@ufl.edu
1/19/06
project
Andrew J.: From a Univ. of Calif. grad. who once debated for Barry Goldwater. I am sure there are many folks who are happy about your campaign to "expose" profs. Because as long as you waste your time making snide remarks about a tiny slice of a liberal-arts school you can't be doing anything serious, politically effective, etc. You might achieve a guest spot on Fox News, which industry analysts are downgrading incidentally (business folks not acrtiical ideologues), but thinking circles will not respect this kind of web "work", which is closer to Comedy Central and to McCarthyism than actual critical treatment, certainly not constitutional reasoning.
C. Andrew
Jeff Meredith, jallenme@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Marxist economics
professor I had in 1999 …
Mr. Jones:
Hello, I am a 2000 graduate of UCLA, with a degree in
Political Science and History. I would like to bring
attention to a Marxist economics professor that I had:
Dr. Remi Zeitablauf, a visiting teacher from Berlin.
While teaching my class, he had secret meetings with
Ted Kennedy, Noam Chomsky, and fellow Marxist, Paul
Krugman. $100 can be sent to:
Jeff Meredith
164 W. 128th St., Apt. #2A
NY, NY 10027
Thank you for what you're doing, I think it's very
noble of you to stand up to the pinko commie liberals
who are ruining this country.
Robert Hannan, bhannan@gis.net
1/19/06
info
Here's some very important inside information for you and your friends
regarding your "outing" of liberal bias at UCLA:
You're a sad, hypocritical lot.
And, what's a 24 year old Republican doing stateside anyway?
It's YOUR war. YOU voted for it. Can go fight for "freedom" (read: OIL)?
It's so VERY important to continue Joe MaCarthy's work here at home. I see.
What a bunch of cowardly and pathetic thugs! Hey! Just like your coward, phony, didn't-really-win, "president".
Best of luck in your puny-minded little life.
Bob Hannan
Concord, MA 01742
Davette Robinson, davette@charter.net
1/19/06
Shame on you!
Shame on you for your witch hunt on left-wing professors !! It is un- American to oppose free speech!
Mark Scerri, mark_scerri@yahoo.com
1/19/06
re:UCLAProfs.com
you people should all get a life !!!
Clint, clintatl@gmail.com
1/19/06
F U
What a bunch of small minded, whiny little brats you are. I bet if they were railing against that sodomite4 Bill Clinton you would be praising those professors. If your right wing children are too sensitive to listen to other sides of the argument then they need to be in special classes. And if they are anything like you people then they need to be in Special Ed classes.
Fuck all of you right wing, bigoted, small minded, "christians".
Clint
Atlanta
Deborah
Cabrera-Piquant, dkcpiquant@hotmail.com
1/19/06
The Dirty Thirty
Dear Mr. Jones:
I was listening to NPR this morning when I heard the story about the "Dirty Thirty" including your attempt to censor thier free speech.
I am a registered Democrat, but very much middle of the road - conservative. I am a CPA. I agree with many of the things you agree with - family values, fiscal conservation, education must be a priority, etc. However, I believe every person needs to be exposed to varying points of view, starting with their family and parents, then onto teachers, pastors, peers, professors, coaches. Each of these people have a lifetime of experiences to share. Everyone must make up thier own mind as to what they believe after being exposed to many points of view. By limiting free speech because it doesn't agree with your point of view is just wrong.
You used the word "brainwash" in your speech on the air today. I don't believe a person is brainwashed by a college professor they see for 4 hours a week. Parents need to be the ones to raise thier children to understand that not all points of view are correct and how to decifer which ones are correct. By the time a person gets to college, they should be able to form thier own opintions - you did, give all the other students the same chance you had.
Please do not do this. There needs to be more tolerance and understanding in the world, not less. We live in an age where everything is scrutinized, disected and misunderstood. People are being held up to impossible standards, with no understanding or compassion when they fail.
I actually cried today when I heard this story. I just see our country polarizing everywhere and turning into Nazi Germany where no one will be educated and free thinkers will be jailed or killed.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Deborah Cabrera-Piquant
Miami, Florida
Luca, ltek5it@yahoo.it
1/19/06
my idea
Hi, im Luca from Italy.
I've read your project about comunist professors, and i want tell my opinion about it.
For me is a typical american useless idea, i dont know if is better to smile or cry.
Anyway im not suprised, USA and California are famous in Europe for useless projects.
Sorry for my english.
Best Regards
Luca C.
Italy
Shannon Joy Telenko, telenko@gmail.com
1/19/06
a new quote
Here's a new quote for you...
The Bruin Alumni Association "is the penultimate example of [the right wing's] navel-gazing" (taken from Chapter 3 of UCLA in Black and White, http://www.bruinalumni.com/articles/afam3.html).
If you think that your history and culture is more important than others' I feel sorry for you because you're missing out. You could learn something from "radical" academicians.
Your Website perpetuates hatred and all the ugliness of the world.
--
Shannon J. Telenko
Courtney Willis, court_willis@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Dirty Twenty-Eight
I am supremely disappointed that a conservative political science major has taken it upon himself to attack the leftist establishment in such a way as this Dirty Thirty project. As a politcal science major and one who perjoratively cares about such issues I find it stiking that you rarely, if at all, engage your enemies in substantive debate. The end result is that your enemies appear marter than you; your tirades against them essentially say, "these professors say really complex things that intimidate me and make me think of things I don't want to think about."
It is commendable that you are concerned about the way that professors react to students in the classroom. That however is a disciplinary issue, not a political one. You recently went on the record saying that you oppose the professors' attempts to politicize education and yet your efforts do as much if not more to bring about that end.
Our country, I would remind you, was born out rebellion. Do not lose site of that fact. Some of the greatest thinkers who everlived were put to death for their opposition to the status quo (Socrates, Jesus).
Courtney Willis
Carrollton, TX
R Scherr, rdproductions141@yahoo.com
1/19/06
profs
wow--you're a real sicko.
is that all you can come up with?
Nicholas A. Lavelle, LAVELLEN@student.gvsu.edu
1/19/06
Left Wing
Indoctrination
Dear Members of the Bruin Alumni,
As a senior undergraduate student in psychology at Grand Valley State University I studied forms of indoctrination as my psychology capstone sr. project. I feel compelled to inform you that first and foremost any and all views one holds are likely to come out in teaching practices of all studies and in all forums to some degree. Secondly it was wildly apparent in my research that any group which can be given a label (i.e. Christian, Left-wing, etc.) can and usually does involve some forms of indoctrination to varying degrees. Education happens to be one such example where students are in the gray middle between indoctrination and education in ALL STUDIES and in ALL SITUATIONS. Insisting that professors are indoctrinating students to their views is most absurd because no one person can or will give an unslanted opinion eof anye topic upon which one holds aen opineion. This having been said there are a number of informative scholarly articles written on indoctrination and some of the criteria include depriving one of physical needs, and redefinition of vocabulary. Your particular case against Left-wing professors is quite weak in the case of indoctrination and unfortunately quite a large number of the listed professors are involved in the Social Sciences which lends itself to the Liberal ideology. Subjects that are driven toward social conscience and equality of peoples regardless of race, socio-economic status, and gender typically do not appeal to classical conservative values (Lower Taxes, removal of government social institutions, rights regarding firearms, and the inclusion of religion in state decision making). It also sounds to me on several occasions that many of the accusations made are done so based on specific begrudging incidents where this list is being used simply to make a professor feel guilty about the way in which they handled a situation; this is irresponsible action for something that considers itself a school alumni institution. Please inform yourselves on the methods of indoctrination and the nature of the trends of Liberalism and Level of Education. Thank you for your time. ors is quite weak in the case of indoctrination and unfortunately quite a large number of the listed professors are involved in the Social Sciences which lends itself to the Liberal ideology. Subjects that are driven toward social conscience and equality of peoples regardless of race, socio-economic status, and gender typically do not appeal to classical conservative values (Lower Taxes, removal of government social institutions, rights regarding firearms, and the inclusion of religion in state decision making). It also sounds to me on several occasions that many of the accusations made are done so based on specific begrudging incidents where this list is being used simply to make a professor feel guilty about the way in which they handled a situation; this is irresponsible action for something that considers itself a school alumni ins
Steve Marino, heymarino@cox.net
1/19/06
Bruin Alumni Association
Dear Andrew,
Are you honestly against the first amendment??!! While we older veterans put it on the line decades ago and young people are now fighting for that right you sat on your fat ass in school and came up with the brilliant idea of becoming another Joe McCarthy! You and your parents should be ashamed of yourselves. Your proposal is tantamount to nazism. With all the free time you have to espouse your vitriolic rhetoric why don't you get up off of your fat ass and join the service and put your time in. Then come back here and talk to America about your witch hunt. You have the right to do what your doing but what makes you think what you're doing is right!
Any time,
Steve Marino
FDS 2001, fds_2@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Shame!
My stomach sicken this morning when I heard about your group.
Do you really want an American where we all think the same and believe the same?
This is sad, sad, sad....
FDS
Frank Anigbo, frank@vbridgesoftware.com
1/19/06
"...Piterberg did not feel the war was “necessary for national defense.” It’s a safe guess that this view isn’t exactly kosher with the families of the hundreds of Israelis killed and wounded by PLO terrorist attacks launched from across the Lebanese border. "
Are you not every bit as guilty of your accusations? Please read your own statement above carefully, although I strongly suspect an unwillingness to see beyond the rethoric.
Just what the world needs, another ill-informed, ill-advised crack-pot organization!
-Frank
Justin Witte, oj430@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Cultural revolution!
Congratulations Comrad,
Thank-you for carrying on the ideals of Mao Zedong and
the Chinese Cultural Revolution. It is good to know
that despite the fact that the Chinese government
itself has denounced the anti-academic practices of
the cultural revolution that a nice young comrade
yourself has not forgotten the value of persecuting
the educated and trained in our society!!!
You are a shining light for the unseen red armies of
the world! After all if individuals in our
universities were allowed to speak freely and openly,
even against their government, we may end up with some
sort of political model where those who get the most
votes actually win elections, and wars are fought for
actual reasons. That would be a disaster.
It is important that you and your fellow young
communists continue to fight against those who offer
different views or challenging opposition. After all
if you do not stop these Jeffersonian radicals they
will not rest until you are forced to question the
beliefs fed to you by the political party that is
funding your glorious project.
There are those who may say what you are doing is
wrong, or overly political, but I would ask them to
remember that history is the final judge of what is
right. History will be the judge when it comes to
whether or not ratting out professors who challenge
your personal poorly formed political views is
valorous or disgusting! I think we both know what the
judgment will be, history will recognize your actions
as a fantastic victory for the communist movement in
the country!!
Your Comrade in the fight against free thought and
higher education,
JW
Juan Matute, juanma2t@gmail.com
1/19/06
UCLA Profs Project
Evidently you missed the class where the subject of Senator Joseph McCarty and his HUAC workings were discussed? Your venture here evokes some horrible memories to those of us who recall this dark period of our American History. Unfortunately, your organization drags the name of UCLA into your national exposure. You really are doing nothing that benefits anyone. You are coming off like the crazed senator, as well as repeating the mistakes of the past. You have no shame, do you?
--
Juan Matute
"God Bless the Whole World - and no exceptions"
Mark Redhead, mreadhead@exchange.fullerton.edu
1/19/06
radical
Dear whomever runs the site of the day,
I just want to know why the term “radical” is equivalent to bad or evil. After all how many (a) moderates ever did anything of significance in human history and (b) haven’t many ideas and values including those of R. Regan, B Goldwater and M Thatcher been tarred and feathered with the term “radical” at one point in time? Your group might actually emerge from all the pub on NPR as somewhat respectable if you attacked Profs on the intellectual merit of their positions (while defending the merit of your own) rather than simply throwing labels about.
Mark Redhead
Althea Turner, althea@alfalfapress.com
1/19/06
McCarthyism – dirty
30
Thank you for reducing education to an exercise in Fascism. McCarty and Hilter would be proud.
Althea Turner
althea@alfalfapress.com
"Ignorant themselves of the forces of nature and wanting to have company in their ignorance, they don't want people to look into anything; they want us to believe like peasants and not ask the reasons behind things."
William of Conches, 12th century
Chris Washburn, chris_washburn@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Liberal UCLA
professors…
Perhaps you should choose a different battle.
Try here:
http://www.marines.com/page/Lead-Form.jsp
or here:
http://www.goarmy.com/contact/how_to_join.jsp?hmref=cs
They need people like you.
Best,
Chris
Kim Harich, moonrise_farm@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Witch Hunt
Wow. I can't believe how insecure you people on the right wing fringes are. With all the money and all the political power that you have, the prospect of an obscure, poorly paid professor warping the minds of impresssionable young adults still haunts you. As if anything he might say could counteract the mountains of corporate propoganda that they have been inundated with for their entire lives.
Maybe they can think for themselves, and the few hours that they spend in some classroom won't actually brainwash them after all, turning them into mindless Marxist zombies, ready to infect all those they come into contact with. If they do start to look at things a little differently after being exposed to some radical leftist thought, maybe that's a good thing. Really, it's not likely to convert them to communism, not when they can see the benefits of the free market economy all around them.
Why not allow a few dinosaurs to survive, growling about social justice and equality, if only for the amusement of those of you so much more enlightened? After all, if the world is indeed coming around to your way of thinking, they won't really do any harm. And if someday, it turns out that you don't have all the answers, it might just turn out that there is some merit in an alternate point of view.
I won't insult you by calling you a whiny, smirking, bully, but some might.
Arman Deganian, adeganian@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Prof List?
Thanks for the fresh dose of McCarthyism. It's been so long since this nation has had the luxury of seeing this type of patriotism first hand. Here here. You're doing a great job of promoting yourself. Congrats. Despite your clear disdain for Marxists ideals, your association would have flourished in a society such as Stalin's Russia. You, sir, are a true patriot. It's about time we start monitoring speech again. I mean, c'mon, what should we expect? It is obviously too much to really believe that students could think for themselves in such a radical place such as UCLA. Thanks for the help. You're really making the best out of your undergraduate degree. Good job. You are truly an inspiration to us all here in the South. Go get em'.
Arman Deganian
Univ. of Georgia Alum
Jasa Slovjanski, jp_slovanski@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Fight anti-war
moonbats!!
Hello, I saw your website recently, and it is impressive that you are willing to stand so fervently for the policies of Bush and pre-emptive war. However, I do believe that your strategy is a bit misguided. I have read that you are about 24 years of age(only a year older than me if that), which means that you are still well-within prime recruitment age for the US military. Since I KNOW that you support the troops, and fervently hope that the US is victorious in Iraq, the best way you can put all those crusty professors to shame is to do your part by joining the US armed forces, preferably a combat arms MOS in either the US Army or Marine Corps. Unlike you, I was not able to go to college. I joined the army at 17 and was denied the great opportunity to serve in Iraq. With your college education, you could easily become an officer or at the very least enlist with a rank of E-4 where you would quickly be on the road to becoming an NCO. I am sure you will not need my help finding a recruiting station in your area but just in case check out Goarmy.com or marines.com, and in the case of the army I HIGHLY recommend MOS 11B.
Thank you for your time,
JPS
Tres Falls, txfalls@sbcglobal.net
1/19/06
You must be a Rove operative.
Justin Janger, justin.janger@gmail.com
1/19/06
Thank the Lord above!
Dear Andrew Jones,
I just found out about your wonderful program at www.uclaprofs.com to expose those liberal bastards at UCLA! Does Bill O'Rilley and Hannity know about this? I bet that we could get them in on this game and we some wonderful coverage.
Please let me know how I can help stop the exposure of people like my brother, who went to UCLA, from this kind of experience. God forbid that he be forced to think for himself and digest the ideas exposed to him. Without people like you my poor idiot of a hermano would get an idea that there is a big huge world out there and no one wants that. Think about what would happen if today's youth heard about ideas that might differ from their own!!11!one!! The carnage would be incredible. My brother lacks the cognative skills to resist having his fragile little mind warped and shaped by those manipulative professors. Can we trust anyone at all in the educational system?
Let me know when we can add more people to this, what are you calling it? Not sure, but try "Blacklist". That worked well in the 50's when McCarthy tried this before. Tremendously popular. Look at all the communists he exposed! Joe was quite a man.
Now that I think about it, why don't we modify the plan a little. To help Conservative Youth find each other I'll start a site that tracks all the people like you who are supporting the great and glorious Conservative ways and we can get all of you together in one place. I hear there's a wonderful spot just outside of LA. What was the name? Oh yeah. I know just the spot. Here's a link.
http://www.nps.gov/manz/
Hope to see all the Conservatives like you, espically you, there real soon!
With all my heart,
Justin Janger
Former Student
Roger King, rlkingkong@earthlink.net
1/19/06
New Name
Dear Students,
May I suggest renaming yourselves the "Bruin Brown Shirts" it characterizes you organization so much better. Roger L. King
andylyke@mindspring.com, cc: acarnesale@ucla.edu
1/19/06
Uphold academic
freedom
Sir,
I write to support the UCLA faculty in exercising their free speech both in and out of the classroom. I hope that the silly twit at "Bruin alumni" is causing you little or no irritation. I, too, was once a callow youth, so I understand what this boy is going through.
Buck up. this too shall pass.
Andy Lyke
andylyke@mindspring.com
Robert Michaelson, rmichael@northwestern.edu
1/19/06
UCLAProfs.com
Gentlemen:
I've just learned of your most important project to weed out subversives from the UCLA faculty.
I wish to bring your attention to the notorious Professor Saul Winstein, noted for his espousal of non-classical "scholarship".
Shamefully, Winstein was actually an alumnus of UCLA, but this education didn't stop him from doing "research" on -- and even teaching! -- topics such as "homoconjugation" (I blush to even type it!). Not surprisingly, he counted himself an expert on free radicals, and worked to promote them. Withal, he was allowed to remain on the UCLA faculty for 21 years.
I hope that this shameful record will be brought to the attention of the appropriate authorities.
R. Michaelson
mburck, mburck@sbcglobal.net
1/19/06
ucla profs
Heard about your academic record. But then, you don't appear
to do your homework.
There is the little thing called intellectual property rights.
Perhaps you have heard of this.
Paying for a professor's notes is a clear violation of the law
It's a slippery slope.
You've got a real criminal career ahead of you.
These kind of tactics? Think Donald Segretti, Lewis Libby,
and Segretti's protege Karl Rove who will soon be joining Libby.
I am willing to wager that within 5 years
you will be doing hard time.
You know happens to people like you in prison?
They're going love you in the joint. Literally.
Margaret Griffin, Margaret.Griffin@pgnmail.com
1/19/06
Another way to
suppress dissent
Why don't you just hire hit men to kill the people you don't want heard? Why waste time? Good Americans like you don't have to allow others to speak their views or have college students exposed to different ideas! What is this country coming to when intellectual freedom is placed over your conservative values? Pay for those finger pointers and then pay for the gun pointers. You have it made! I'm sure the KKK will be happy to come to your aid.
Barry Jennejahn, barry.jennejahn@microage.com
1/19/06
Welcome to 2006:
McCarthyist witch hunts are back!!
Your McCarthyist/Stalinist tactics are disgusting. Having not heeded history, you are shamefully repeating some of its worst crimes against humanity. Suffice it to say that you must’ve been very poor students…
Barry J.
Phoenix, AZ
Andrea, andrealeabennett@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Your Website
You betray a lack of self esteem which others may not
see. I hope you manage to find the confidence to
think for yourself someday.
Respectfully,
Andrea Bennett
giovanni matteucci, frame99@lycos.com
1/19/06
From Europe
Is it just a joke?
Are you crazy?
I'm a liber"ist" former student from Europe and I can't believe you're so stupid.
Please, stop it
Giovanni Matteucci - European Union
Atara Stein, astein@Exchange.FULLERTON.EDU
1/19/06
Embarassing and
amusing
Open letter to the Bruin Alumni Assn.
I'm a UCLA alum (B.A., 1980; PhD 1990). After reading the _L.A. Times_ article, I checked out your website and your professor profiles. It was immediately obvious that they're as full of the same sins of which you accuse the listed faculty: extreme partisanship, lack of objectivity, hysteria (I've only seen more exclamation points on the comic pages), and paranoia. It was also clear that whoever wrote those profiles clearly didn't pay much attention in composition classes; the arguments are based on bias and the assumption that there is only one possible correct point-of-view, namely yours. You accuse UCLA professors of bias in opposing the war with Iraq and President Bush, yet you assume pro-war and pro-Bush positions as if those are not opinions as well, but absolute truths. While the _Times_ article states "the group says it is concerned about radical professors of any political stripe," you manage not to find a single radically Conservative professor on the entire UCLA faculty.
My own experience at UCLA was quite different from the one-sided picture you paint. I had professors from across the political spectrum. I even had Conservative professors who were excellent teachers and presented opposing points-of-view in a reasonable manner, and I had left-wing professors who were as biased as you claim. But of course, the opposite was also true; I had radically Conservative professors who would not accept any consideration of another point-of-view, and left-wing professors who were open-minded to any well-argued and well-supported argument. The same is true on my own faculty; when students have complained to me about particularly Conservative professors, I asked them if they were learning anything of value in those classes, and I gave them my own opinion, which is that a student *should* be exposed to a wide variety of political stances, theoretical approaches, and teaching methods. How else is a student to develop critical thinking and formulate an informed position of her/his own?
What I do object to are professors who refuse to admit the possibility of any other opinion and grade exams and papers based on a student's regurgitation of or opposition to the professor's own bias. I remember very specifically an Art History class at UCLA, with a professor who was a self-described Marxist. It was one of those large lecture classes where papers are graded by TA's. I (a sophomore at the time) wrote a paper which took a formal approach, not a political one. My T.A., an ideologue, objected to the lack of political context, particularly Marxist political context. However, when I brought the paper to the professor, he read it on its merits, not for its political stance, and raised the grade.
As a professor myself, I believe I unconsciously learned a lot from that experience. First, it is appropriate and honest to let students know your political position, pedagogical approaches, and your stances on the particular controversies in the field in which you teach (in the case of literature, the debate over the literary canon continues with the conservative side espousing a purely Western (and mostly male) canon and the liberal side arguing for an expanded canon which includes more female writers and writers from a variety of ethnicities and non-Western cultures). And it is dishonest to conceal a radical point-of-view (on either side of the spectrum) without letting students know that it is just that, the professor's own *opinion*. I always made a point, on the first day of class, to let my students know that my political opinions tend toward the liberal side and that I am a feminist, and I come out as queer. I also specify the brand of feminism (you may be surprised to know that there is a spectrum of feminist opinions with quite a bit of disagreement among them, not a monolithic, heterogenous mass) I believe in, which is a liberal feminism that believes in equality between the sexes and the desire for equal opportunity in education and careers for all people, regardless of gender, race, sexual orientation, and social class. I often in class object to the male-bashing end of the feminist spectrum as much as I object to sexism. I also specify, throughout the semester, that my own interpretation of a particular work of literature is just that, an interpretation, and definitely *not* gospel. I've had to give C's to papers I agreed with 100% because of poor, unsupported arguments and other flaws in writing, and I've given A's to papers with which I wholeheartedly disagreed because they were well-argued and well-written, and supported their points with evidence.
I'm not trying to present myself as a saint; however I believed in being honest with my students, and I believed in being open-minded to a variety of interpretations. I am well aware that many (but, by no means, "all*) professors across the politcal spectrum do *not* do the same, but are dogmatic and inflexible. That's unfortunate, and in my *opinion*, bad teaching regardless of their opinions about President Bush and the war with Iraq or the literary canon. Your website is guilty of the same sins; you present an extremist political stance as absolute truth, and you exaggerate claims about any professor with whom you disagree while not objecting to idealogues on your own side of the political spectrum. As a UCLA alum, I am embarrassed that a UCLA graduate should have learned so little about critical thinking and the value of exposure to other ideas. I also find the writing and the emotional hysteria of your site and your profiles to be amusing because they reveal such blatant hypocrisy without even seeming to be *aware* that right-wing positions are opinions, as much as left-wing positions are. You do not have a monopoly on absolute truth. And as I told my students, neither do I. What I do *not* find amusing is your plan to bribe students to find the evidence you so far lack to bolster your attacks on left-wing and liberal professors. It strikes me as a desperate tactic, and desperation can be dangerous. I only hope that most of my fellow alumni graduated with stronger critical thinking skills and more persuasive writing skills than your web site evinces.
Atara Stein (disabled and awaiting approval of my retirement on disaibility)
Professor
Dept. of English
Cal State Fullerton
Fullerton, CA 92834
astein@fullerton.edu
cc'd to the _Los Angeles Times_
Henry Grodsk, grodsk@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Denunciation
Dude,
You should check out Charles E. Young in the Slavic department. I dont have his lecture notes because he is so far out there. I also don;t have a tape recording of his classes as I understand it is illegal to record someone without their permission and there;s like no way he would give me his permission. Not after the hazing incident anyway. So I don't have exact notes but I do remember one thing he said: "The first job of a true patriot is to question the Government".
When you get back in touch with me I'll give you my bank details so you can transfer the hundred bucks licketty spit.
Yours,
Henry
PS There is no link to the hit list on http://www.uclaprofs.com/studentshelp.html
Kevin Gainer, kgainer@columbus.rr.com
1/19/06
Douglas Kellner
Andrew: I (and a million others) read newspaper articles this week about a new information gathering service of yours. Of course, more information (as long as it's "good" information; details omitted) is better than "less", so out of curiosity I just went to your website a moment ago to see what the details were (i.e., what you had in mind). I guess you have some concern about whether or not materials presented in public are "accurate". Unfortunately, you don't make a really strong case for a "violation" that needs to be addressed on such an urgent basis. For instance, I was scanning though this stuff you have about Kellner (I live in Ohio; never heard of the guy by the way) and you have this quote from him:
“as a response to the September 11 terror attacks, the Bush administration has answered with an intensified militarism that threatens to generate an era of Terror War, a new arms race, accelerated military violence, U.S. support of authoritarian regimes, an assault on human rights, constant threats to democracy, and destabilizing of the world economy. The Bush regime also provides political favors to its largest corporate and other supporters, unleashing unrestrained Wild West capitalism, exemplified in the Enron scandals, and a form of capitalist cronyism whereby Bush administration family and friends are provided with government favors, while social welfare programs, environmental legislation, and protection of rights and freedoms are curtailed.
Consequently, I would argue that Bush administration unilateralist militarism is not the way to fight international terrorism, but is rather the road to an Orwellian nightmare in which democracy and freedom will be in dire peril and the future of the human species will be in question. These are frightening times and it is essential that all citizens become informed about the fateful conflicts of the present, gain clear understanding of what is at stake, and realize that they must oppose at once international terrorism, Bushian militarism, and an Orwellian police-state in order to preserve democracy and a life worthy of a human being.”
THEN, after you quote, you start "ranting" about how distorted his presentation is. This is where the average (but intelligent) person gets lost frankly. To wit, with regard to the Kellner's verbiage above one can summarize at least a major porttion of it as a SIMPLE claim that "Bush has ushered in a period of unrelenting violence on the World scene". It's a simple enough fact (unfortunately) and all we need do is go over the STATISTICS and then let objective-minded people decide. That's the only available route for you to convince people he's wrong. Anyway, as it stands now, Kellner has a more persuasive case than you (read on).
This illustration in the just prior paragraph (can be repeated with the other individuals you're seeking info about) is not what harms your effort the most. We have a word in English, "tendentious", (means: marked by a strong implicit point of view; PARTISAN) which is in the language because as we know some people, due to psychological make-up have a tendency to, let's say, "over-advocate". My point is the speech on your site is so shrill, that fact alone (the shrillness) raises questions regarding psychological aspects (relating to you, of course) that might underpin your behavior (evidenced in your writing) here.
At ANY rate, the best thing to do if you want to understand social phenomena (didn't they teach you this at UCLA?) is to gather the BALD facts, and then make a decision. Most of the bald facts regarding our society's problems (like the War, other social problems) are ALREADY accessble to you. Even as smart as Kellner is, all the stuff he's talking about is already accessible to you on the outside. Which puzzles me further...if you're trying to figure out stuff in this "social" arena, why don't you use the accessible sources first. I wouldn't pay $100 (why waste money); I can go to the library and get the same stuff for free. So, the $100 thing really confuses me (indeed, reminds me of profligacy, another problem here in the community)
I don't know, but seriously your website and it's shrill tone puts you in an unfavorable light and I have a sneaking suspicion that behind this ineffectual information gathering technique (again, all this stuff is in the library!) there might be a person who can actually process the facts if you take the time to get them (social science, although difficult, is not "rocket science", believe me.)
And so forth.
K.
George Dobosh, gdobosh@yahoo.com
1/19/06
you are Hitler loving
fascists!
Ray Pence,
rpence3@sunflower.com
1/19/06
Admiration
Dear Andrew:
I've been reading about you. But then I realized I was reading liberal media reports. So, I went to the source. Your site is great! Or maybe I should call it OUR site--the site that fights for traditional values and quality education. You are the MAN! Keep on FIGHTING! I get harder when I look at your site than when I check out PORN! Keep it UP!
Ray Pence
Lawrence, KS
brian rickel, brianrickel_1999@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Professionalism
"We're just trying to get people back on a professional level of things,"
This is what your young president is quoted as saying in regards to the current "effort" your organization is making to bring back conservative view points into the classroom. I work in the "professional" world. I work for one of the largest law firms in the United States. Our office runs on a very corporate level that is considered to be one of the most professional in the nation. I also have the honor to sit as the Managing Director of one of the fastest growing young Theatre Companies in the city of Chicago. While we are a professional organization, I can assure you that we are far more relaxed in our nature and business practice than the goings on of the law firm. One environment is very conservative, both socially and politically, mainly because of the demographic of our support staff and the large amount of money involved in the industry. The other environment is about as liberal as it gets. Part of an arts organizations' mission is to spark dialogue and question the ideas that are set forth by the government and society. In neither organization would it be considered "professional" to ask anyone to privately tape or record the public thoughts of a colleague and attempt to use them against him or her because their political views may not agree with mine. In fact, many at the law firm might argue the absolute illegality of the practice.
When I see tactic like this used, I am reminded of the young and brilliant director, Elia Kazaan. He is the man that was so afraid of being deported that he listed all of his friends to the Mcarthy investigation as possible communists. These people were his friends. People he drank with and shared ideas with and created art with. He turned them all in out of fear. It ended his friendships and blacklisted him from theatre all together in America. How sad. How sad to know that one man sparked such fear in people that he caused a man to alienate himself from all of his "professional" friends.
If your organization is looking to bring education back to a "professional level" I suggest that you spend some time in the professional world to see what is appropriate. Your President is a mere child who just graduated from college. He has no idea what is and is not professional. College is the one place where it is absolutely OK to express unpopular ideas and question authority. Still, this must be done in an ethical and legal fashion. I want you to take one moment to put aside your political make up and ask your selves one question. "What if they are right?".
Paying people off to get the results you want is the way of the mafia and the current state of the Republican party. Please take a look at Jack Abramoff and possibly Tom Delay. Are these people you want your ideals and ethics associated with?
I am ashamed that young, educated people must resort to this. You have college degrees. Please think before you act in the future. I applaud your Board Members for stepping down and separating themselves from your young, idealistic organization. They are, after all, professionals and must protect themselves. Perhaps you all can take a lesson from them.
I invite you you all to come to Chicago to see our next production of "Osama the Hero" by Dennis Kelly. Perhaps we can sit down and have a discussion of ideas about torture and personal redemption. I will even give you comps to the show. Don't bring your tape recorders, however. That would break copyright laws.
Brian Rickel
Managing Director
Dog and Pony Theatre Company
"Make no little plans; they have no magic to stir men's blood and probably will themselves not be realized. Make big plans; aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will not die."
-Daniel Burnham
denis cormano, dcor@gmx.ch
1/19/06
my opinion
Are you missing Nazi's? U don't know the Meaning of the Word FREEDOM as
American?
You shoud.
Patrick Corbus, pook7479@hotmail.com
1/19/06
To Whom It May Concern,
Your website was recently brought to my attention and I must say that it disappoints me. As a student looking to apply for graduate school, UCLA was at the top of my list. Rest assured that after seeing this website I will not be applying. The same shield of freedom to print whatever you choose about these professors also applies to their chosen scholarship and points of view. A pluralist society, such as the one we enjoy here in the United States, allows for multiple voices to be heard without fear of persecution or personal attack. The weight of your arguments against the research and views of these professors would be better served by engaging them in scholarly debate as opposed to attacking these professionals on a personal level. If your concern is that these professors are saturating the minds of students with "left-of-center propaganda" then try provided points of difference for discussion and debate instead of appealing to the lowest-common-denominator by attacking their character with petty insults. Raise awareness and the level of debate, not the level of hatred and intolerance.
Sincerely,
Patrick Corbus
1/19/06
UCLA Alumni
Dear Andrew
I am a graduate from UCLA in 1983.
I'm disheartend to see that a UCLA graduate (class of 2003 I understand) has used all of his brains and wisdom to created such a prejudiced and brash website http://www.uclaprofs.com/.
One thing I've learned since graduating over 20 years ago is that it's so easy to tear other people and organisations down. But it takes more guts, and more brains to actually inspire people to rise up beyond their (sometimes selfish political) selves and come together and build something new and lasting.
What you are actually doing is trying to take away people right to speak their minds and hearts. This is really a way to diminish people's spirit, and promotes claustropobic fear mongering. And fear is rampant enough in the USA right now.
Regards
Blake Ludwig
marilena, maripont@tiscali.it
1/19/06
EUROPEAN FUCK
Carol Hixson, chixson@darkwing.uoregon.edu
1/19/06
your anti-terrorism
efforts
As the wife of a UCLA alum, I am appalled at
your McCarthy-like tactics to repress dissident
points of view. If you had been better students,
you would know that freedom of expression was
something that the founding fathers of this
country worked for.
Shame on you. We will never support UCLA
financially as long as your group is practicing
this kind of repression. You should have
gone to USC.
Carol Hixson
Mike Stevenson, mikestevenson69@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Report on Douglas
Kellner
I heard that Dr. Kellner called you guys a Nazi-esque, proto-fascist, right-wing fuckface group of losers! I cannot believe these liberals! They are trying to ban Christ from the classroom. They spew liberal trash and talk against our beloved President.
Praise our Leader, President Bush! God Bless these United States!
In Christ,
Mike
PS: Please speak out in support for a draft! All of our men and women should be fighting for the noble cause of Iraqi freedom! Please post this link to the CA National Guard for recruiting information:
Computer Friends,
Inc., cfi@cfriends.com
1/19/06
message
Fuck You Zionist bastards
Glenn Manry, gmanry123@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Hyperbole
I read through several of your professor descriptions. I was hardly amazed when I encountered very little factual refutation of their statements and only read hyperbole and invective labeling. Poisoning the well is a known logical fallacy. You are an alumni society, yes?
For example, in the section on Peter McLaren, you quote his listing of US policies that were connected to fascist, authoritarian, and totalitarian regimes around the world. All of that is historically verifiable, though the extent of involvement does vary. Instead of factually refuting it, you simply insult him. If you want to spar with intellectuals, intellect and factual rigor are required. I don't know Professor McLaren, and I am sure there are many things that he writes about with which I would most definitely take exception, but I would have to do it factually for it to amount to a hill of beans to anybody who actually matters in the academic world. Of course, your promise to take it to the Californian people sort eliminates that last criteria. Although, I think you picked the wrong state for the battle.
As an example, of your tactics, I could merely pass you off as being the forefront of a brown shirted movement in American politics, aimed at using a convenient forum to undermine political views different from your own. Now, that wouldn't be fair would it?
It sounds like somebody in your group got his or her behind reddened in a classroom, got their beliefs stepped on and couldn't answer with any facts, (so unfair) and feels a need for a little vindictive ranting.
Of course some professors do step over the line. I have seen examples on both sides of the spectrum. So, I am sure you have a similar program to root out right-wing radicalism in the business and economics departments, where some geo-economic and political theories favorable to certain class groups in our society are spouted as gospel, even when supporting facts for those theories are hard to come by? After all, you are solely concerned with academic rigor, aren't you...?
I note that two of your board members resigned over this interesting list and your payment of undergraduates for breaking copyright and privacy laws. Hmmm, wonder why they did that?
Well, good luck with your 15 minutes of fame.
Sincerely,
Glenn Manry
1/19/06
Absolutely shameful
!!
While what your are doing is utterly shamefull the way you are doing it is unbelievable.
Universities have always been a place for students, professors and academics to freely discuss political issues. These same Universities and colleges have played an important role in raising the awarenss of issues that are important to society. Further, we have in this country the right to free speech (at least the last time I looked). Do you really think that your tactics are going to quell that? You have opened a pandoras box and I believe and hope that this will be the ruin of your fearfull, republican, narrow minded organization.
RFS
victor zamora, aikidevil1713@yahoo.com
1/19/06
pathetic retards
Instead of giving each of your little brown shirts 100 dollars for narcing out professors, who don't adhere to your twisted political views, use that money to throw a going away party for the republicans that are going to get their asses handed to them this spring and in 08.
go fuck yourselves,
V.
Michael D. Rectenwald,
mdr2@andrew.cmu.edu
1/19/06
Not a refutation on
your entire site!
Everything you write is mere ad hominem ranting. You haven't refuted a single point made by one of your despised members of the professoriat at UCLA. Take Kellner, for example. Not once do you counter his charges with counter arguments or facts. You merely attempt to belittle him as a fanatic. Your rhetoric is typical rightwing epithet--pooh-poohing words, people and ideas without stating why they should be the alleged bogeys you make them out to be. Counter the arguments! I see UCLA did not teach you well! You do not know what an argument is!
1/19/06
The Alien and Sedition acts part II, eh?
Heidi M Walker, hwalker@firstam.com
1/19/06
A Few Questions?
After looking through a few of the “Professor Profiles” on your site I have a few questions.
ü Is there any proof that the political opinions of these professors have directly negatively skewed the grades of students with conservative views?
ü Have you considered assembling a list of Professors that the Bruin Alumni Association supports, and their political efforts and participation?
ü Does the BAA honestly feel that the Conservative body of UCLA student and faculty are a minority or majority that has been discriminated against?
ü What rights have been violated by the actions and opinions of these Professors?
I am a person that enjoys reading facts. I support your ability to assemble and freely state your opinions. I would like to see the BAA more concisely state the wrong doing of the people they have taken offensive with. Last I checked it is still legal and within their rights to hold opinions, participate politically, and assemble. Unless there are rights they have violated, and your association intends to legally pursue those violations, I think that you are only “preaching to the choir”. Please do not take offense to my critique of your site and organizations site. I intended to see a more professional presentation from someone that has earned a Bachelor of Arts in Political Science. I urge you to find a mentor that is will help you achieve the quality and befits one as impassioned yourself.
Heidi Walker, H.S. Diploma
Raytown South High
1/19/06
The First Amendment
Andrew Jones:
It is hard to believe you could be a graduate of an excellent institution like UCLA and be unaware of the 1st Amendment Right to Freedom of Speech. You should do some research and find out more about it! It is a very necessary right in a democracy such as the United States of America. And your pathetic attempt to try to stifle free speech by bribeing students into becoming McCarthy like tools of your Right Wing organization is insulting and embarrassing. Thanks for making the world think UCLA produces ignoramuses such as yourself. As an alumni of the institution you defame, I am embarrassed by your ignorance and arrogance.
Robin Bernstein-Lev
Class of '84
les hunter, leslielarshunter@yahoo.com
1/19/06
issues relating to
your site…
Dear Mr. Jones
My name is Les Hunter I am an academic in the SUNYsystem. It seems apparent that your site does not espouse academic freedom in any way. Your list of "radical" professors are only those that are radical on the left. Certainly there are rightist professors on campus who let their views known in the classroom. I find it troubling that you would seek actively to stifle academic freedom in the classroom, a place where, by its very nature, an open range of viewpoints needs to be fostered. It should not be reported or snitched on as your 1984esque spying for dollars program asserts. I find it cowardly that you pay students for your political means.
Other segments of society are not chastised and spied upon for their political leanings. Perhaps we should focus national attention on the political leanings of corporate CEOs (their companies recieve huge contracts and subsidies from our precious tax dollars). I would imagine that many of them are right leaning. Maybe we should attempt to push them out of their posts because too many of them are republicans. This would never happen, and yet the scenario is not so different.
I suggest, sir, that if you are concerned about the wrong message being sent to students, perhaps you should attempt to acquire a PhD and teach your own classes.
Thank you for your time.
Les Hunter
Joshua Ikemire, joshikemire@msn.com
1/19/06
I once had a history
teacher….
That told me Nixon was a Quaker. You are all lying fascist pigs. We let you teach your BS. Let us teach ours.
Poonam Dayal, poonamdayal@gmail.com
1/19/06
Dirty Thirty list
Dear Mr. Jones,
I heard about the Dirty Thirty List on the news and went to your
Website. I think it's shameful. It reeks of McCarthyism.
I totally support you in trying to press your views forward, as do all
those radical students and proffessors but a "Dirty Thirty" list-
PLEASE! Don't take us there. The radicals could make lists of exteme
conservatives too.
The extemists on both ends are well known beyond their followers but
let's rise above a tit-for-tat world.
Wishing you well,
Poonam
Tony Pelliccio, kd1s@cox.net
1/19/06
UCLAProfs
How charming. You don't agree with a particular professors viewpoints and then start a web site to 'report' on these professors.
I wonder - where is the money coming from? Wouldn't be the College Republicans would it?
And I hope to God that one of these professors files a harassment charge against you. It'd be the least that you deserve.
Nicholas Williams
Oas, noas@emich.edu
1/19/06
lecture notes
Spying on professors? It is you who are the radicals, suppressing free
speech. I would never spy for you, or anyone.
I hope you fail.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,1689653,00.html
the Obies, theobies7@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Liberal professor
whacko
I know of a guy who is a total socialist. He denounces capitalism at almost every speech and he gives a lot of speeches. Thousands of people have foolishly flocked to hear him. He talks of wealth being spread around so that there are no rich or poor. In fact, I think he hates rich people because he said it's almost impossibel for rich people to get into heaven! Can you believe this guy? I will tell you who he is when I get the $100 you promised. (His initials are Jesus Christ) OOPS! (I mean J.C.)
Comments, comments@bigotsforbucks.com
1/19/06
Stand up and be
heard…
Now that name calling cowards like yourselves are deciding that you are going to expose left wing radicals and be the Joe McCarthy saviors of our time - why don't you show some RESPECT for democracy and come out in the public square and DEBATE your issue like Americans instead of hiding in your tower of ideological bigotry?
CHICKENSHITS!!!!!!!!!!
You ought to be ashamed to be called an American --- COWARDS!!!!!! EVERY DAMN ONE OF YOU WHO HIDES FROM PUBLIC DISCOURSE shames this democracy.
Leon Sandeski
Matt Lujan, slybuzz20@yahoo.com
1/19/06
You Guys are Stupid.
STUPID...STUPID...STUPID.
Troy Frederick, Tfrederick@VermontLaw.edu
1/19/06
Do you consider
yourself to be an American?
Do you consider yourself to be an American?— And I want you to really think about this one. Just in case you answered yes, I would like to inform you that you are not acting like one. Instead you are acting like a communist watch dog. Your website is repulsive and the monitoring of the Professors at UCLA is nothing short of a Nazi control tactic.
Maybe that is what you want. The right wing views their adversaries as enemies and this is the perfect example of that. This is not merely a disagreement over politics; this is a Carl Rove style attack on a person for expressing their beliefs pursuant to the First Amendment. But to you neo-cons, the law and the Constitution do not matter to you as long as it stands in your way. You are probably asking yourself, why you should care about the professors’ First Amendment rights. Because if you were a true American you would realize how important it is that people be able to voice their minds free of encumbrances. Anything less would eventually result in an authoritarian state that illegally spies on its citizens for political gain.
I think that what you are doing is reprehensible. But as a “true American” I believe that you have every right to do it. I want you to search in what’s left of your ethic, without hiding behind the American flag, and do what a true American would do, let these people voice their opinions. It is their God given right under our Constitution. Who are you to stifle the ideas of another? That is your goal right? You want to change the behavior and the teaching style of the Professors at UCLA, and possibly around the country. Just remember everyone has a choice in a free country. If those students are really that bothered by the professors they could go to a different college. This is a free country “right?”
Troy Frederick
JD/MSEL 2007
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." (Mark Twain)
joe coccia, glisuni@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Unbelievable!
Mr. Andrew Jones:
Unbelieveable! I couldn't believe my eyes/ears when
watching/listening to MSNBC last nite and again NPR
this morning when the story about your organization
and you came up. The Gestapo tactics you are engaging
in and paying for to chill and stifle academic inquiry
and scholarship and progressive enlightenment are
downright frightening....but alas, something to be
expected now of young Republicans...such as the likes
of Abramoff, Reed, Norquist and others of your ilk
that grow up to be rabid greedy power hungry ogres
like Nixon, Agnew, Mitchell....Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney,
Delay, Santorum who wrap themselves in the flag and a
charade of false patriotism.... such a long
distinguished list.... of shame and embrrassment huh?.
You are clearly following in the many footsteps of
your SoCal/UCLA Nixonian brethren such as Haldeman and
Segretti....such a pedigree indeed. Your ideals,
motives, methods and objectives are thoroughly
anti-American and totally in keeping with the finest
methods perfected by Hitler and Stalin. You should be
ashamed of yourself, you ignorant, closed-minded,
spoiled little child....grow up and open up that
Republican brain-washed little mind of yours you poor
pitiful thing...
- jc ( a 51 yo, mwm, 27+yrs active duty military
service/ retired senior naval officer, Harvard alumni,
genuine patriot and proud liberal democrat)
Samer Farhat, Samer.Farhat@wacker.com
1/19/06
BAA
Dear Andrew Jones,
As a recent graduate of UCLA I am concerned with the actions of the BAA. From the amount of effort it takes to begin such a work, I feel safe in assuming that you are a highly motivated and intelligent person. But your commentary on UCLAProfs.com is sad and pathetic. The "power fists" scale significantly reduces any credibility you may have to comment on the political leanings of professors. I am not writing to rip you and or even to tell you to end the BAA. I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinions, but I will firmly defend your right to express those opinions within the bounds of the law.
Now, judging by your website you seem pretty arrogant or at least defensive of late. But there's nothing against arrogance in the constitution, so you go right ahead and be yourself. Raise hell. Piss off a few liberals. But what do you think you will really accomplish? Do you think any professor will bow to you and change their style or their views? Sure, some may "watch what they say," but the majority will probably become more inflamatory in their remarks if for no other reason than to spite you and your organization.
I was a chemistry major so I didn't have any contact with the majority of professors on your "Dirty Thirty" list. (Might I add that the entire concept of that list and the sports-like commentary under each name is weak and ineffective.) But the completly one-sided nature of your organization will make sure that BAA gets lost in the swirl of the political toilet flush. Mind you, that flush is both liberal and conservative. And what every component of that flush shares is their ineffectiveness to enact positive change. They are all (liberal and conservative) a bunch of whiners who just bitch about the other side instead of making positive suggestions and taking positive action. BAA will fade and in time people will sit around laughing about "that organization and their list of liberal professors." You've got an axe to grind and we can all see it. Sure, fly the banner of "improving education" over your cause, but then where are the conservative professors on your list? Where are the downright poor teachers on your list who do a disservice simply because they are bad at teaching a subject (think Math Dept.)? Call out all the faults if you want to truly improve education at UCLA.
I suggest you put your time to more effective use. You probably wont and you probably disagree with most of what I've said in this email. That's cool, but I believe time will prove me to be so very right.
Samer Farhat
Product Development Chemist
WACKER SILICONES - SILMIX® WEST
UCLA Chemistry, Class of 2002
Midnight Cruiser, midnightcruis86@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Leftist professor
Hi, I'd like to report a leftist professor I had to take a
class from at UCLA in the anthropology department, Professor Fred Engels.
This guy is a classic hippie liberal Marxist. He was always spouting feminist
garbage like, and I quote, "The modern individual family is founded upon
the open or concealed domestic slavery of the wife." And don't get me
started on the radical environmentalist junk he laid on us like this (and I
quote again) "Let us not, however, flatter ourselves overmuch on account
of our human victories over nature. For each such victory nature takes its
revenge on us." He also said that the idea of personal property is a
consequence of class society, as if it weren't a God given right! And of course
he tried to convince us that we are all just glorified monkeys. He said,
"The variety of all living things and their adaptive features is now
explainable with a few principles according to the theory of evolution."
Man, I barely made it through that class. Put him on your list!
Sincerely,
John White
P.S. Where can I pick up the $100?
1/19/06
communist reichwing
moron
Burt Ruffin, burtruffin@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Please accept this
donation
Dear Andrew,
Your actions as president of the Bruin Alumni
Association are truly impressive. You've established a
group that misrepresents itself as UCLA alumni and
drawn national attention to it in order to serve your
own ideological agenda. I can only conclude that you
have failed to find gainful employment. Rest assured
that your name and degree will only be worth less as a
result of this amazing, and probably illegal, so very
unwitchhunt-like charade. You were obviously too busy
running crappy editorials and half-assed, inane and
horribly edited features in the Daily Bruin to
actually learn something while you were here. If you
had any balls, you would have engaged in debate with
professors you disagreed with while you were in their
classes rather than lambasting them once the grades
were in. I'm sure yours were just super.
So please accept this donation: I hereby bequeath
every bit of shit, urine and gas I expel to your fine
organization. Hope you have lots of room in your P.O
Box.
Burt
PCOrtega, pcortega@yahoo.com
1/19/06
radical UCLA
professors
so I guess right-wing radicalism is the preferred method of choice for you. while you denounce left-wing radicalism you say nothing about right-wing radicalism...your silence is your approval.
do us a favor and just deport yourself from the United States of America where free speech is a hallmark of this great democracy. you are so anti-america and so pro-bush that its beyond belief.
oh yeah, I respect the office of the presidency but I have the right not to respect the man sitting in that office. you and your ilk on the other hand worship the current man sitting in the office and are offended that anyone takes a position opposite to him and his policies. you want to end free speech.
you are anti-american and anti-democratic and if Nazi Germany were still around you would fit in very nicely.
Sharon Johnson, johnsonsa@centurytel.net
1/19/06
your spy endeavors
Shame on you!!! So now you are a spy organization? These were the same tactics used by Hitler.
Sharon Johnson
Larry Bergan, lbergan@xmission.com
1/19/06
Fuck you!
Shame on you for trying to end freedom of speech! Those professors can say anything they want under our constitution and your convoluted interpretation of it will never change that fact!
1/19/06
Andrew “Idiot” Jones
Hey dork Andrew. Why don't you hand out $100 to the students who can find which teachers you paid off to allow you to graduate dummy! HAHAHAHA. YOU DORK!
Michael P. Anderson, mikea@clientworks.com, cc: mikea@nevadacityfreepress.com
1/19/06
Bill of Rights, still
totally awesome
Dood,
Totally uncool. Bill of Rights, you should look 'em up. They are still in force, last time I checked.
Manderso Nation
R Caminata, caminata@allmail.net, cc: editor@mail.ucla.edu
1/19/06
WHY?
To the radical extermist traitors:
After going through your views and what you stand for, it is clear to
people with good conscience that you are nothing but the bunch of
insects or viruses that are eating away the foundation of democracy,
human dignity, and liberty. Your rightwing extremist nature is no less
potent than that held so dear by the Nazis.
There is absolutely nothing honorable or noble about what you are trying
to do. In fact, the ideals and the doctrine you are supporting and
endorsing and defending are as disgusting as the most toxic waste
spilled on UCLA campus, an institution of intellectual development.
"College Republicans" is indeed an oxymoron. With all the stupidity and
barbaric ideology possessed by the Republicans in colleges and
universities in the US, the suggestion of intellectual element in the
word "college" is a sharp constrast to the word "republicans". To help
you understand it better, I am going to speak at the level you are at:
YOU IDIOTS ARE A BUNCH OF FUCKING MORONS AND BRAINWASHED BASTARDS WHOSE
EXISTENCE IN THIS SOCIETY IS NO LESS THAN A CANCER THAT MUST BE
ERADICATED!!
So get lost you assholes! Leave UCLA alone. UCLA is a great place for
the intellects to flourish - not a place for dumpshits like you to
pollute.
Laura Busch
F C, developcarpaltunnel@gmail.com
1/19/06
my liberal terrorist
sympathising gay professors
hello,
first of all i want to thank you for your work. you are doing the lord's work, make no mistake. many priests from the dark ages and jesus often spoke about loyalty to whoever is in power. i wish we could go back to the days when every citizen would band together and single out those with opposing views with a star of david. how is this a healthy debate in any way? sometimes i wish you sons and daughters of german nazis would separate yourselves from normal progressive white people because you really are embarrassing us normal whites. you dont make us look good, we make you look good. you're selfish, unchristian like, unloving, misunderstanding, nazi attitudes are giving white people a bad name. why dont you move back to hamburg or alabama and fuck your sister after buying the latest rush limbaugh pain reliever pill inspired book and fucking yourself with it. you are for sure going to be dropped in a deepest pit of hell after getting your taste of hell in racist, stupid, alcohol and coke fueled los angeles. you are white trash, every last one of you, take a logic class, ill bet you a hundred deutsch douche marks your wife is banging a minority, the unsatisfied desperate whore. f you f you f you, go to hell now, go back to the south, i hate you, debate, agree with george w that the war was a mistake, eat shit.
Joanna B, bubbagumpshrimp@hotmail.com
1/19/06
UCLAProfs.com
Hi,
I just wanted to thank you for giving such extensive information about UCLA professors with a radical background or philosophy. Now I will know exactly which classes I want to take when I begin attending UCLA in the Fall.
Thanks again,
Joanna Baker
Jeff Whittington, jeff@codecology.com
1/19/06
UCLAProfs.com
I agree wholeheartedly. Put all those unpatriotic professors in boxcars and make 'em bark like dogs. Then off to the camps! Much success in your efforts, my wholesome friends.
Anon anon, allmyjunkmail2@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Comparitive Politics
Hello!
My comparitive politics professor last semester
definitely had a left-wing bias. He taught that
western countries like the US and England actually
intentionally drew boundaries in the Middle East and
Africa to cut across ethnic lines. Supposedly this
creates instability and the resulting government is
unpopular and dependent on the west for support.
These tyranical regimes are then used by the west to
insure that western companies reap most of the profits
from natural resources like oil, while the indigenous
population remains poor. This inequity, he claims, is
the root cause of anti-western sentiment and even
terrorism.
I can't really find a flaw with the argument--I'm just
a student--but this strikes me as having a left wing
bend. I mean, I personally much prefer the idea that
the Koran tells them to hate us for our freedom.
cheers,
Gabe Thomas
Loretta Callahan, loretta@spiritone.com
1/19/06
Want to help
You all get busted, discredited and shut down.
Enthusiastically,
Loretta Callahan
The secret of happiness involves ducks and ukuleles
1/19/06
dumb dumb boys
another member of the thought police?
abramoff must be so proud of you.
Chris Stoney, Chris@advantagestaffing.net
1/19/06
SIEG HEIL!
I have been saving my Brown Shirt and my Jackboots for all these years and I finally I hear about you on NPR this morning and I have to tell you I'm so excited!!! I will be practicing my goosestep and awaiting my orders.
Siel Heil !
Rednecks Uber Alles!!!
Shaw, shaw@bluewin.ch
1/19/06
right on bro!
Heard about your deal on npr. You should move to a communist country and apply for the secret service there. You would be a natural.
1/19/06
you guys are sick, George Orwell was correct just 20 years early.
Rebecca Lingafelter, rlingafe@hotmail.com
1/19/06
To whom it may concern;
As a graduate of the UC system, I am ashamed at and shocked at what your organization is trying to do. To pay students to "spy" on their teachers not only goes against the fundamental premise behind institutions of higher learning, but sounds suspiciously like the black lists of the McCarthy era. It's interesting that your organization does not look into professors on the far right as I had a fair number of these at UCSD.
Your articles on the various facutly are poorly researched and consist mostly of inflamatory language rather than legitimate critique. I am appalled that the UCLA Alumni Association is at the heart of this injustice. It certainly makes me think twice about contributing to my own alumni association.
With disgust,
Rebecca Lingafelter
Joe Hermosillo, joe_hermosillo@hotmail.com
1/19/06
How much do you really believe the right wing war rhetoric?
Please, feel free to go fight, kill and die for what you truly believe.
Or do you truly believe that it is more patriotic to stifle speech that you don't agree with?
Speech that so many thousands of good men and women fought, killed and died to protect.
YOUR local recruiting office
SANTA MONICA
720 wilshire blvd
santa monica, CA 90401
310-260-6188
Joe Hermosillo
Karl Olson, oye.karl@yahoo.com
1/19/06
Support the
President! [for Andrew Jones]
Dear Mr. Jones:
I remain in awe over all of your accomplishments while
you led the Bruin Republicans, including the pro-war
demonstration in 2002, the pro-war
counterdemonstration in 2003 and the very prescient
invitation to counter-terrorism expert L. Paul Bremer
III to UCLA that year.
While I understand your concern about the current
direction of UCLA, I wondered if you were aware that
success in Iraq is our nation's, and Our President's,
and our governing party's highest priority at the
moment.
Assuming you are healthy and heterosexual, you
certainly appear eligible for military service. If
you led a club from 90 to 320 members, you clearly
have leadership qualities that will serve our
servicemembers well. Given the ongoing recruiting
problems, have you considered it?
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Karl Olson
Operation Yellow Elephant
http://www.operationyellowelephant.com/
Sam, sam@rubber-stamps.ndo.co.uk
1/19/06
Your Project
It saddens me as an educator, now retired, to hear that a prestigious university such as UCLA is being targeted by a McArthyite group of students who, using the dollar as impetus rather than discourse, simply show to the rest of the world the intollerance of the minority elite of the USA by driving it further away from international consensus than is its current position. When will you realise that might is not always right and that listening is better than shouting. Shame on your targetting of your professors.
erin prevette, ertjpr@hotmail.com
1/19/06
UCLA Alumni
Association
To whom it may concern;
Of course I acknowledge the right of student's to rate their professors - in fact, I welcome it. By PAYING students to provide this information, however, adds an entirely different component to the program - you are urging the type of censorship that I feel is contrary to the spirit of the academy. What is education if not integrated into everyday life? Students should be able, if properly educated, to filter the information out and decide for themselves.
You are really encouraging a lowering of the standard of educational practice and I just wanted to add my voice to the pile of probably thousands of emails you are receiving on this day.
Peace(oops - is that too political?)
E.Prevette
John Wrobel, pentill@hotmail.com
1/19/06
Your association
Dear Andrew,
I just today heard about your campaign against liberal professors. Have you also started a campaign against conservative professors who will not have anything good to say about liberals? What about intelligent design - you sound like a person who believes that rubbish also.